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matt fraser
05-03-2008, 12:47 PM
I managed to get away again last night, but that will be the last for a week or two - have to get some brownie points back up!

Launched the boat around 5pm, and went arse up on the ramp - luckily my phone and wallet didn't get too wet.

Ran into Andrew (the Gecko) at the ramp as he was preparing for his own Jack mission. After a quick chat we headed off to our spots. (keen to hear how he went)

I got some bait and this time was pretty lucky in securing some good mullet around 4-5" as well as herring and biddies.

Chucked plastics till dark for zippo - again.

Just on dark I anchored up, and deployed baits. I just caught the last of the incoming tide before it stopped all together. I got a few bites in the first hour or so, a couple were just pickers, but one was a Jack that took chunks out of my bait - a whole dead herring. Unfortunately missed the bite.

Once the tide picked up the bites dropped off, to virtually no action at all. I moved up sinker sizes and tried several spots in the same area over the next few hours with no results at all. I had a fair idea that things would pickup at low tide but that was around 1am. After a quick call home, I decided to stick it out, about 12.30am I started to get some action, but the tide still had a bit of run in it.

I was fishing three rods again - sorry Andrew can't help myself, especially when it's so slow. Rod 1 was a barra baitcaster, now spooled with 50lb braid, I used 55lb schneider leader on it and rigged a live mullet on snooded 3/0 Black Magic Octupus style hooks (small sinker running to the nose). Rod 2. Barra baitcaster 30lb braid , 40lb leader, 3/0 Mustad baitholder hook - I fished either mullet fillets or whole dead herring on this all night. Rod 3 - Spin rod 10lb braid, 40lb leader, 1/0 mustad bait holder hook - bait was biddy or herring fillets.

Rod 1 got a bizzare sort of bite and before I got any weight on it, it went slack. Wound it in to find it had been biten or cut off above the double????

As the tide slowed further, I got a decent bite on rod 2, but missed it. I was still re-rigging rod 1, and rebaiting rod 2 when rod 3 - in the holder, goes off!

I managed to survive the initial run, and after a short fight I net a nice 42cm Jack. Yes! The leader had a couple of scuffs, but held up well. I quickly take a pic, check the bait and put it back out. Then set rod 2 as well. Two minutes later as I'm still retying rod 1. Rod 3 goes off again - this time a 38cm Jack. This was about 1am.

It goes a bit quiet, and the tide slacked right of to nothing so I reposition into my incoming tide spot. About 2am, rod 3 gets smacked again and I pick up a nice 41cm Jack. two minutes later rod 2 gets a bite that I miss.

Between 2 and 2.30am I get a few more bites that I miss. One bite was the only serious encounter I had all night. Rod 2 was up against the gunwhale and my foot was on the butt. The rod slammed down hard and about a metre of line was stripped off a 3Kg plus drag! By the time I reached down to grab it the line went slack. I thought I must have been busted off again, but I wound it in to find the hooks simply didn't hook up! I didn't think to check the hook point, but it must have been dodgy from a previous snagging. I lost that hook on a snag shortly after.

By 3am the tide is running too hard again so I packed up to go home. Only problem is my battery is now flat - I suppose it has been running the lights and livewell for about 10 hours now. and it did the same thing on Sarturday night with very little engine running time.

Anyway I stuffed around changing batteries, from my electric and finally end up back at the ramp by 3.30am - home by 4.30am. Yep it turned out to be another mission!

In the end all fish caught on Rod 3 the lightest outfit and smallest hook and bait. the live mullet rod only got one suss bite all night. Rod 2 had a few bites, but mullet fillets weren't at all popular.

Caught two vermin eels as well.

Apart from the one hit that stripped line, I didn't really encounter any of the animals from previous trips. Could have been because I moved up to 40lb & 55lb leaders? Maybe they just didn't come through?

Anyway, hopefully I'll get another shot or two at them before the end of the season. Its been an interesting few trips so far and I'm learning more about tides, spots, leaders, knots, drag setting, baits and hooks, and I think improving each time. I'll be studying the tides a little closer now and picking the better ones so I dont have to stay out all night.

It's very encouraging to see that it is fishing just as well as it did 10 years ago when I used to fish the same areas regularly.

Pic is of the first Jack - I didn't bother taking pics of the other two

Cheers,

Matt

the gecko
05-03-2008, 01:10 PM
Hi Matt,

Nice result matt. I still think your brave fishing 3 rods, but you cant argue with results.

I went worse than you, maybe I shoulda changed spots! No jacks for me, just a few bream, also slow in the mid tide, but I got a big hit at low tide around 1am. Maybe a jew or a ray, it felt like it was 20 kg.... Went for a long run, stopped and gave a few head shakes. After I got it to the boat, I was just about to see color, when the braid snapped! I did have the drag set right, but I got greedy and upped it a touch. Serves me right.

BTW, I changed my lights to LED globes for lower power draw. Ive not a flat battery since.
It was good to meet you.

Andrew

Blacksheep
05-03-2008, 01:39 PM
Nice work Matt, they say commitment is everything, you'll be rewarded soon with a big one! Matt I'm fishing a barra outfit as well, Daiwa Blacksheep with 30lb Fins and 40lb Black Magic flouro leader, I reckon it's better than being undergunned! I'm with Gecko as well, I can't believe you have 3 rods on the go, I only fish the one and if I have to put it down for some reason I take the bait out of the water. Hey Gecko, good to see you out there chasing the red fish again, no doubts we'll see a few pics of em soon.

Shane

Didley
05-03-2008, 01:56 PM
Thanks Matt great report. I've found the first half of the run out is most productive for me. I always fish 2 rods, U may miss the occasional one but I sure the catch rate is still up. Sounds like a pretty fair night any how.
Andrew, I think it might be time for spot X to fire up again, mate;D

Cheers boys

Pistol_P
05-03-2008, 02:07 PM
Hi Mat,
Great report again.
Yeah leader size is something you could argue for ages.
I normally use 30lb fluro leader when livebaiting and it seems to do a great Job.
Schneider is very thick.....however in saying that I have caught jacks when shark fishing with wire....:-/ ....So I dont reckon leader size puts them off to much personally.

Pete

Shagga
05-03-2008, 02:20 PM
Thanks for the report Matt. Now get some sleep.

pursuit001
05-03-2008, 06:18 PM
hi nice jack never caught one myself how should you fish for these? live bait or dead, bait?

matt fraser
05-03-2008, 10:13 PM
Thanks guys, enjoying sharing and learning on Ausfish.

Andrew, great to meet you, bad luck about busting off!

Pursuit, there is plenty of info on here on Jacks from plenty of good Jack anglers. Have another read of this thread and others on Jacks. Everyone has their favorite baits. Mullet, herring, pillies, gar. You'll probably get the bigger fish on livies but IMHO you'll get more on cut baits.

Cheers,

Matt

nuggstar
06-03-2008, 06:55 PM
i like your landing net and the fish to

ffejsmada
06-03-2008, 06:58 PM
hi nice jack never caught one myself how should you fish for these? live bait or dead, bait?

Read Matt's report again mate, it'll tell you all you need to know.::)

mat_anderson04
07-03-2008, 09:06 PM
Well if it aint Mr Nitro him self Matty Fraser. I didn’t know pure fishing, had a product called live herring. “ gulp out fishes live bait”!!!! what happened to the motto?

matt fraser
07-03-2008, 09:21 PM
Matty ?-who? faiser? Who's he?

Ok so I'm a closet baito! I just love catching fish, generally on the most productive method available be it lure, fly or bait.

Generally its on soft plastics using Nitro jigheads!

Cheers,

Matt