REVO INSHORE vs DAIWA ZILLION

[Splash]

Ignoring price, Most suited reel for saltwater pelagics in the 7.1:1 gear ratio?

Splash

[NAGG]

Splash .... Im curious to know why you are looking at low profile baitcasting reels for inshore pelagics:-/ ..... regardless of the gear ratio , the spool diameters are so small that they would make bugger all difference!
Speed is generally what you are after ....... So why not look at some of the quality spin reels in 3000 & 3500 size ? ( you really need to look at fairly big overheads to get the same sought of cranking) .... Nagg
PS ... Line capacity could be an issue with baitcasters too .... unless your using lower than 10lb braid

[Splash]

Thanks for the reality check Nagg.

What reels fall into the 3000 and 3500 class? What do these numbers really mean?

Is spool size the overiding factor when using spinning reels?

i.e. u could have a small reel (with small spool dia) with a high gear ratio but you can also have a larger reel (with larger spol dia) with a lower gear ratio.

I am after somehting not too cumbersome to hold and light enough to hold/cast out small lures - with a fair line capacity.

Splash

[NAGG]

Thanks for the reality check Nagg.

What reels fall into the 3000 and 3500 class? What do these numbers really mean?

Is spool size the overiding factor when using spinning reels?

i.e. u could have a small reel (with small spool dia) with a high gear ratio but you can also have a larger reel (with larger spol dia) with a lower gear ratio.

I am after somehting not too cumbersome to hold and light enough to hold/cast out small lures - with a fair line capacity.

Splash

Hi splash

'm no guru on these type of things ....... but only what I've learnt by experience.
Spool diameter is the biggest single influence , then gear ratio . Typically the spin reels (3000 size) have a much larger spool diameter (2"+) & normally run a 4.8:1 ratio ( baitcaster might only have a 1-1.25" diameter line load ... & a 6:1 ratio ) ..... or 30" to 23"(per crank of the handle) through the water as a comparison.
Putting aside the BS ..... The 3000-3500 size reel is small enough & light enough to cast all day , will hold plenty of (braid) 400M+ of 12lb ....... & a reel like a Certate can pull tree stumps (handling 7kgs of drag pressure):P ..... I hope this helps ? .... Nagg

[Splash]

Thansk Nagg.

SO, is spool size the major influence on retrievel rate - irrespecitve of the advertised gear ratio?

My eyes popped when I saw the price tag on the Certates - Not for me8-)

I read on this forum that someone had a Daiwa Regal with 9:1 gear ratio with good line capapcity.

I Cannot see this advertised anywhere...:-(

THoughts?



Splash

[Fafnir]

Retreive ratios + spool diameter will make a difference to how much line is retreived per full turn of the reel handle. A reel with a lower ratio, but larger spool diameter can retreive the same amount of line as a faster ratio reel with smaller spool diameter per each full turn of the handle.

Whilst high ratios are an advantage for some forms of fishing, keep in mind it makes harder work of actually landing the fish.

[Splash]

Fafnir - thanks.

DO u prefer spinning threadliens or overhead baitcasters for throing lightish lures?

SPlash

[NAGG]

Thansk Nagg.

SO, is spool size the major influence on retrievel rate - irrespecitve of the advertised gear ratio?

My eyes popped when I saw the price tag on the Certates - Not for me8-)

I read on this forum that someone had a Daiwa Regal with 9:1 gear ratio with good line capapcity.

I Cannot see this advertised anywhere...:-(

THoughts?



Splash

Hi Splash ..... Since you mentioned a Zillion in your post ($450) ... A Certate is not too much more ($550).
If you check out www.japantackle.com (http://www.japantackle.com) you will be able to land the Certate for under $430 Oz . these guys are very good to deal with , offer tracking on the goods ....... I've never had a problem ..... Nagg
PS Regals have only 5.1:1 (max) ..... very few spin reels have a ratio over 6:1

[Fafnir]

Hey Splash, I think NAGG is spot on the money. For casting small slugs, light lures etc over any sort of distance, I prefer spinning reels and I would definitely recommend the Certates. Check out some of the overseas online stores, you should be able to get a pretty good deal on a standard Certate. For tuna, mackerel etc a Certate 4000 is a nice reel, that will have enough line capacity for you.

[Splash]

thanks boys