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ismail82
19-12-2007, 08:17 PM
Hi Guys,

Am wonderng which GLOOMIS Mossyback rod I should look at. I will match it to a millionaire sw203 and use it for Barra, Jacks, Big Flaties, Jewies etc. There are so many not sure which one.

ALso which GLOOMIS rod should i look at for Soft plastics. Will use either a stradic 2500 or a sustain or twinpower 2500. Will be used for bream, flatties, whiting etc general esturary SP work.

What GLOOMIS rod to mathc a Stradic 4000. Will be used for snapper, and other deep SP work.

Final question what are the big differences between the GL2 and GL3 besides the prices?


I was going to over over the net but my parents are going overseas so I will get them to bring it back for me, that why all the questions.


thanks in advance fellas.

Ismail

NAGG
20-12-2007, 08:06 AM
Hi Guys,

Am wonderng which GLOOMIS Mossyback rod I should look at. I will match it to a millionaire sw203 and use it for Barra, Jacks, Big Flaties, Jewies etc. There are so many not sure which one.

ALso which GLOOMIS rod should i look at for Soft plastics. Will use either a stradic 2500 or a sustain or twinpower 2500. Will be used for bream, flatties, whiting etc general esturary SP work.

What GLOOMIS rod to mathc a Stradic 4000. Will be used for snapper, and other deep SP work.

Final question what are the big differences between the GL2 and GL3 besides the prices?


I was going to over over the net but my parents are going overseas so I will get them to bring it back for me, that why all the questions.


thanks in advance fellas.

Ismail

Ismail ..... The loomis range is pretty big but maybe I can help with the rod selection as I've had a good look recently at many similar rods .

for your SW203 in the Mossyback .... id look at a BCR804 (6'8" & 14-20lb) .... If you can spend a little more coin & want a faster , lighter more responsive rod .... you could look at a Magbass MBR784C (IMX ... not a glass/ graphite blend like the Mossybacks )
For Sps .... I'd go the Dropshot DSR820S (4-8lb) or if you want heavier the DSR822S (6-12lb)...both are 6'10"
For the heavier rod ... you could look at the Bronzeback SMR913S-SP (10-17lb & 7'7")
Finally the difference between the GL2 (standard graphite) & GL3 (IM6) ... is the quality weight , responsiveness. GL3 make for reasonably tough mid level rods.... 8-) ... The rod that I do most of my wild barra fishing with is a GL3 CR722 & has been a favorite for the past 4 years.
Anyhow best of luck with your choices8-) Nagg

ismail82
20-12-2007, 12:38 PM
Thanks Nagg.

Always a wealth of helpful and useful information. You have given me options which i didnt even consider.

regards,
Ismail

the gecko
20-12-2007, 02:07 PM
Ive been looking into the same questions myself. Im no expert, but for what its worth,
the IMX range is a cut above the gl2, gl3 and mossyback range. The GLX range is even higher quality.

Im looking for a rod rated at 5kg for jacks. I want to able to use it for livebaiting, hardbodies and soft plastics, so I want an all rounder. They suggested the SJR 822 or 823 or 722. Although 550-800 in local shops, they cost 250ish overseas.

I tried some of these rods in the shop, and they felt heaps better than the mossyback or dropshot. Have a look at the SJR range and just choose your own length and wieght.

Andrew

NAGG
20-12-2007, 06:06 PM
Ive been looking into the same questions myself. Im no expert, but for what its worth,
the IMX range is a cut above the gl2, gl3 and mossyback range. The GLX range is even higher quality.

Im looking for a rod rated at 5kg for jacks. I want to able to use it for livebaiting, hardbodies and soft plastics, so I want an all rounder. They suggested the SJR 822 or 823 or 722. Although 550-800 in local shops, they cost 250ish overseas.

I tried some of these rods in the shop, and they felt heaps better than the mossyback or dropshot. Have a look at the SJR range and just choose your own length and wieght.

Andrew

Hi Andrew ..... Have you seen an SJR 822 or 823 ? .... I just received today the 2007 cattledogs ..... & nothing:-/ Anyhow ... sounds like you need the SJR844 (IMX) ...7'0" 10-17lb ($550ish)
Dont discount the dropshots, Mossybacks & bronzebacks ... as these are designed to be slower & softer for their specific needs ( they have glass incorporated with graphite.... to change the action) .... They are workhorses! .... but the IMX & GLX are fast tapered lightweight performance rods ( & easily broken)
Actually when you see the full range ..... Loomis have a rod for everything8-) .... I wish they would work more on the aesthetics;) Nagg

yellahunter
20-12-2007, 06:55 PM
Hey mate,

I would reccommend the dropshot DSR822S
i bought mine last week and absolutely love it,
couldnt believe the feeling you get through the rod......in comparison with my previous rods.

The great thing with this rod is its got enough grunt to chase snapper, jacksc , jewies etc, but can easily double as a lightweight rod chasing bream,whiting and flathead etc,

first had a go with a mates and loved it so when the chance arose to grab one cheap i jumped on it, thoroughly reccommend mate

just check the rod over well before leaving the store as a few loomis rods ive seen lately are a bit dicey.

good luck with it all :)

the gecko
21-12-2007, 11:12 AM
thx nagg,
what needs would a slower softer loomis be better suited for?

Andrew

Flattie Assassin
21-12-2007, 11:59 AM
I bought a GLoomis Crankbait rod, for that very reason. This is what Loomis has to say about it.

For over two decades, while the vast majority of the world's hardcore anglers have been enthusiastically snatching up graphite rods for their performance, one group has staunchly resisted - CRANKBAIT FISHERMEN. They claim graphite's too stiff. Too responsive. Won't let the fish inhale the lure. Well, here is our official answer: They're right. Fiberglass may be heavy, it may feel dead, it may have the reaction capabilities of vermicelli-but its softer, slower action has often made it a better choice for fishing crankbaits. Our Crankbait Series rods incorporate all the elements of the best fiberglass crankbait rods, but with all the added benefits of graphite. These rods have a soft, slow action that allows your lure to work perfectly, and allows the fish to inhale the bait, but unlike fiberglass rods, they're incredibly light, super RESPONSIVE and extremely sensitive. Their reduced weight makes them far less tiring to cast. They're sensitive enough that you can feel a bass suck in a suspended jerkbait and they recover quickly so you won't have to worry about keeping your line tight when a fish jumps. In other words, you gain all the advantages of graphite with the action and flexibility of glass. Each rod in the series is crafted in a gorgeous metallic copper finish. These are truly STATE-OF-THE-ART crankbait rods.

Paid around $440 from allround angler. Worth every cent. They are a great rod for crankbaiting. General lure work. I also fish Plastics from this rod, and find the fish have almost swallowed the bait when i set the hook.

FA

Hardb8
21-12-2007, 03:23 PM
what needs would a slower softer loomis be better suited for?


Topwater fishin,And as mentioned crankb8's.

My personal thoughts are :- Bentifits will also come from any fish hooked that likes to get very acrobatic/violent during battle.E.G. :- Tarpon,Barra,Saratoga etc,Even the old Flatty.Rods with softer actions help to keep the hooks embeded during these aggressive displays in the air,Or amidst savage head shakes.Especially when being used in conjunction with gel spun lines.

I also prefer softer actions when using light lures on b8castin tackle.The slower actions allow the rod to load more,And give you a touch more time on the release of the lure during the cast.Time will give you better accuracy,And less backlashes,And will equal more fish.

Surface fishos will also reap the rewards of slower tapers,As faster rods just seem to pull the lure away from the fish to early,Too often.Even if your nerves are good enough to delay the strike,Ya hook up rate will still not be as good as with a slower rod.

I must also wrap the CBR series rods.My CBR 781 is the only Loomis I won't sell.

My own thoughts gathered through time on the water.

Cheers. B8.;)

Flattie Assassin
21-12-2007, 04:21 PM
Thanks Hardb8, that just reinforces my faith in the whole *research your gear extensively online* Technique. I specifically wanted a rod with a slower action after having used the Tcurve xl 2-4kg rod. I grew to love it, and wanted something similar with more sensitivity. After reading about the subject online for ages, I settled on the CBR 781. And it delivered in spades. ;) You can feel every bump.

I'm interested, what made you choose that rod. similar reasons? It doesn't seem to be a very common purchase.

I hear round the traps, you have a nice case of jackalls ;D;). Is this the rod you mainly use for them?

Cheers
FA

NAGG
21-12-2007, 07:39 PM
thx nagg,
what needs would a slower softer loomis be better suited for?

Andrew

Andrew .... the boys beat me to it!

Spinnerbait rods are made from these glass graphite blends for this reason! .... Nagg

ismail82
22-12-2007, 08:22 AM
thanks for all the info.

I decided on getting the DSR822S. Now for a reel. What reel should suit this rod nicely. Was thinking one of the following. Stadic 2500FI, Twin Power 2500, Sol 2500 or maybe a sustain 2500. Which one guys?

cheers

ismail82
22-12-2007, 08:25 AM
Oh yeah and im going to get a mossyback for the sw203

NAGG
22-12-2007, 09:19 AM
thanks for all the info.

I decided on getting the DSR822S. Now for a reel. What reel should suit this rod nicely. Was thinking one of the following. Stadic 2500FI, Twin Power 2500, Sol 2500 or maybe a sustain 2500. Which one guys?

cheers


CERRRRRTATE ! ..... spend the extra coin & get one of those bad boys ( you wont regret it!) ... Nagg
Buy it OS ... for a big saving!

RawDog
22-12-2007, 01:36 PM
i got the bsr852 mossyback and all i chase with it is jacks it was $475 from memmory and i use an okuma vs30a reel
the rods rated to 7kg i think

Hardb8
22-12-2007, 05:49 PM
Howdy Assassin,

I'm interested, what made you choose that rod. similar reasons? It doesn't seem to be a very common purchase

I purchased from what I was told by the Loomis rep at the time to be the first shipment of CBR's into the country.He also told me that I just bought the first 781 he had sold.

I was Flathead mad at the time,And was into both casting the flats,And trolling the dropoff's and drains.It was also at this time I was getting right into braided lines.

My fast tapered graphite Sabers were excellent when using mono,But put braid over it,And remove the stretch from the equasion,And the results were hooks being pulled left,Right,And centre.

I began making my own rods from glass,Trying to get the perfect combo for braid and Flathead.And although they worked well,They lacked sensitivity,And punch when casting the flats.

I met Ross one day and he showed me the shiney new fangdangled copper finished CBR's,I was sceptical at first,But after seeing the action,And the weight needed to load the rod,I had to have it.The actual rod weight itself was also very surprising considering it's composition.Very light indeed.

Ross tried to put me into what is now the famed 783,But I like to fish light,And the 781 was my dream stick.

It has served me well over the years,And still holds a couple of P.B. captures (Including Barra :o ).But it dosen't see the water much at all these days.It has great sentimental value.And will be given to my expecting daughter,As her first b8caster :D .


I hear round the traps, you have a nice case of jackalls ;D;). Is this the rod you mainly use for them?


Yeah m8.Been collecting,Fishing,And losing,And then replacing them (Jackall's) for quite a while now.I was throwing them on the CBR for a little while with good results,But I discovered the JDM (Japanese Domestic Market) and was absolutely blown away but the rods available.Been fishin rods from the Megabass stable ever scince.Been usin a Destroyer Evoluzion "Espada" as my weapon of choice for traps for the last few years.

Very similar to the 781 in action,But way more sensitive,A little faster to recover,And has a bit more low down grunt.It's an awsome surface rod as well.

Cheers. B8.;)