Baitcast reel for bass fishing!!

[bass-pirate]

Hey everyone,

Well i had an unlucky session the other day just in the river. Me and my brother were being dikheads (there werent enough fish on the chew to keep us serious and entertained) so anyway i managed to flip my canoe in about 30ft of water... everything was tied down and all was well when we flipped it back over and climbed back in..... that was until i arrived at the next pool and went to pick up my rod to have a cast.... i looked around to find that my chronarch 50mg and loomis crankbait was no more in the canoe!!!!!!!

I have already put another loomis crankbait on layby however i am not decided on a new reel... i have been throwing lures at flathead recently and am wondering weather maybe there would be a better option to the chronarch 50mg... i am looking at a reel for no more then say 450 and it has to be of either daiwa or shimano... i am looking at an alphas, chronarch 50mg, chronarch 100b or even one of those daiwa sol's...i also really like the look of the daiwa luna's ..... what can everyone say about these reels?? This reel will still be used 70% for bass fishing but it may be used in salt a little bit too....

Cheers everyone, Dave

[Leigh77]

I can only comment on the Daiwa Sols, as thats the only reel that I have thats in your "maybe list".

I have had no dramas with it, and find it smooth to use. As normal with any Daiwai product I guess. I dont think you would be dissapointed with it.

[BR65]

I have a chronarch 100B, top reel, especially after a service and drag up-grade, dont know how it would go with throwing the smaller size bass lures though??, same with the Luna, allthough the one Ive got is a 203, way to much reel for bass and lizards I reckon.
There were some second hand Steez's around not so long ago for that money, but no good for the salt.
If it was me, Id be havein a good look at the Alphas, was going to buy one my self but Im waiting to see if Santa has been listening to all my subtle hints.

cheers
brian

[bass-pirate]

Maybe i should just go for another chronarch 50mg then?? I was quite interested in the luna 103..... but maybe it is a bit of overkill for bass and lizards.... i want something really nice to cast that is light basically

[basskid]

Hey Dave,
I just bought a daiwa steez very nice, although its a NO NO !! for the salt and so is the chronarch.. My Opinion is to buy a Daiwa Zillion and PM sent about were to get one cheap and also they are extremely versatile.
Cheers Mate

[zaraspook]

i ended up getting an alpha's type f a few months ago and i would say it would be perfect to what your lookin at doing. very comparable to the chronarch but doesnt have magnesium so it is a little hardier. the brake is a little better but it doesnt have a click drag which is a bummer but very comfortable to use, i have it on a crankbait 783 and it is just a dream to use.

[basskid]

Zaraspook,
Type f alphas means fresh, it will not last in saltwater and would not risk it as it has no Corrosion Resistant anything in it. My bet would still be a Zillion in the Crazy Cranker gear as its super slow and you can work your lures extremely well. Otherwise if only used in fresh go the Alphas as you can buy so many options for it like spare spool and other awsome accessories.
Cheers

[Hardb8]

Hi Pirate,
If ya were lookin at a 103 Luna,Check out my CV-Z 103 in the for sale section ;) .Better reel,Same size,Will tolerate salt water fishin,In ya price range,And a few extra goodies as well.A bassers dream.Capable of much more as well.

Be sure to read through all the posts to find the price drops,And freebies.

:) Cheers. B8.

[bass-pirate]

Hi Pirate,
If ya were lookin at a 103 Luna,Check out my CV-Z 103 in the for sale section ;) .Better reel,Same size,Will tolerate salt water fishin,In ya price range,And a few extra goodies as well.A bassers dream.Capable of much more as well.

Be sure to read through all the posts to find the price drops,And freebies.

:) Cheers. B8.

Hey hardb8, that is an awsome reel mate but im sorry i am only looking at spending 300 to maybe a little bit over. I get a staff discount of 25% off and that is why i am looking at reels that are between 350 to 450 cause i will get them for about 300 with my discount... sorry mate, if i had the money i would be more interested but i can also get a brand new luna 103 for 299 anyway

[zaraspook]

there is the alphas which is meant for salt

[basskid]

HEY,
There is actaully 2 alphas types which is meant for salt the 150h and the 103 and there is one for fresh the 103 type f (silver colour) they are all good reels and under your budget bass pirate.

[banshee]

If a high profile is in the picture the Calcutta 50 is prety good value at $259,a good bulletproof little reel that is just as happy in salt or fresh,throw a bit more on top of your discount and order in a wiffle spool from an XT 50 and you'll have a reel capable of flicking 3.5-4g lures around.

[NAGG]

Alphas , Chronarch 50MG , Chronarch CH100B ....... all much of a muchness for bass fishin .... I could live with any of them
Love the Zillion ... but I'm a little unsure if it can cast ultra lite lures like the 3 others mentioned:-/ . Nagg

[bass-pirate]

If a high profile is in the picture the Calcutta 50 is prety good value at $259,a good bulletproof little reel that is just as happy in salt or fresh,throw a bit more on top of your discount and order in a wiffle spool from an XT 50 and you'll have a reel capable of flicking 3.5-4g lures around.

Where do you get those spools from?? i have a calcutta 100 and would love to get a better spool for it so that would be a good upgrade cause i love those reels. Im thinking i will just buy an alphas....

[banshee]

I think your out of luck BP,prety sure the Calcutta XT's only came in 50 and 200 sizes so the wiffle spools would only suit 50/200/250 sizes in the standard CT's,if you had the Curado 100 you could substitute the standard spool with the wiffle and cast control cap out of the MG 50 for a salt freindly low profile 50 (though to be honest there's not a lot of Magnesium in an MG 50 anyway).

PS The spools can be ordered through any tackle store that services Shimano reels.

[barra_mauler001]

mate go the daiwa Steez.. just a little bit out of the price range but yea lol
If you are interested in any other brands, a pflueger echelon is a quality reel and is at a good price.
Great little Bass b/caster.
cheers barra

[bass-pirate]

ok kewl that's interesting. How would a calcutta 50 with wiffle spool compare to say a chronarch mg or alphas (casting wise)??

[banshee]

My only experience with the MG 50 is in my mates back yard flicking a plastic clothes peg around,I have never used an Alphas,the CT 50 with the mod cast as well as the MG in my opinion,keeping in mind that I am biased towards high profile baitcasters as it's all I've ever used.I think the telling point would come with how you fish the reel,if you like to palm the reel the low profile is always going to be your choice,where as if you are a one finger in front of the trigger type the high profile is likely to fit you better.

[bass-pirate]

oh ok. well im going to go for a low profile for the time being and might get a calcutta 50b with wiffle spool down the track for my flathead fishing and just use my spin gear for flathead for the time being. So i guesss its out of the alphas or the chronarch 50mg then...

[yellahunter]

id reccomend a zillion,
i have a zillion and alphas 103 (purple CR Type)
I got the alphas first and fell in love with it, its soo light and small and an absolute dream to use. but when my zillion arrived i couldnt believe that its about the same size and only weighs slightly more.

The drag is superior on the zillion and you can get them cheap as basskid said.
have a look at www.japantackle.com (http://www.japantackle.com), email kayo there and im sure he will look after u. I think my zillion cost $303 landed :)

[basskid]

I Reckon if you are going to put it on a Loomis Crankbait I would go alphas...... they would come in hand in hand And willl be an awsome match ey. just my opinion ;)

[zaraspook]

my alphas,783 crankbait is absolutely awesome one of my most used setup's. between alphas and chronarch there is really no better in my opinion. are u bias towards diawa or shimano? just make your choice on the brand you like more

[zaraspook]

i tried a zillion on the crankbait rod and found it a little to heavy. the combo didnt feel balanced but it felt awesome on the heavier spinnerbait series rod i looked at.

[zaraspook]

i tried a zillion on the crankbait rod and found it a little to heavy. the combo didnt feel balanced but it felt awesome on the heavier spinnerbait series rod i looked at.

[wheezer]

alphas hands down. go for a type f. compared to standard alphas its lighter, smoother because it has a better quality main gear and has bearings in the handles which does make a difference over time. will be fine in the salt, no MG components. stainless bearings are actually a higher grade than the CRBB's, regular basic maintenance will see no probs in salt water. best bit, its cheaper! not sure why but most japanese vendors sell type f's for less than the standard.

same spool dia. as a pixy so it throws small lures well, yet big 7 disc drag i know guys who use these things for impoundment barra