colour preserver ???

[SIRO]

After running out of Erskins thrad sealer / colour preserver half way through a rod i went to get some more only to find i could only get Speed thread sealer / filler .

My question is will the Speed bring out the same colour as the Erskins as i dont relly want to use it and then have to re-do the whole rod ??????

Any help with this seemingly simple question greatly appreciated .


:-/ :-/ :-/

[finga]

The Erskines is still available from the rodworks.
He's a sponsor also :)
http://www.therodworks.com.au/index.php?page=shop.browse&root=199&category_id=200&option=com_phpshop&Itemid=1

[SIRO]

Thanks finga
i was pretty sure it was still avalible but didnt have the time to chase it up this arvo so i grabbed the speed just in case.
the only thing is the speed dosnt say anything about colour preservation on the bottle only sealing and filling ????

[Owen]

I dunno if I'd use one over top of the other.
The erskines is a more tradional CP in that it smells like thinned down PVA wood glue.
The Speed stuff seems more like nail varnish (not that I'm an expert ;))
As with all these questions it's really a suck it and see matter.
Do a dummy wrap on an old scrap blank and see how it comes out.
I've seen so many respected rod builders say they like so many opposite products to lead me to think that the builder must adapt to the requirements of the product.

BTW,
Unless you're using nylon thread (or madeira) you don't need CP.


cheers,
Owen

[Stuart]

I hate them all thats why I make my own.

Stu

[finga]

I hate them all thats why I make my own.

Stu
Is the recipe a trade secret like Flo's pumpkin scones or is it freely available like CWA scones??

[Stuart]

Trade secret mate. It took me a long time to get it just right. The hard part was tring to get the blend right so it dosent wash the colour out and end up blotchey. If anything it enhances the colour.

Stu

[finga]

Trade secret mate. It took me a long time to get it just right. The hard part was tring to get the blend right so it dosent wash the colour out and end up blotchey. If anything it enhances the colour.

Stu
Very understandable :)

[sid_fishes]

so stuart, do you sell your stuff?

[Stuart]

I dont normally mate but if a few people want some I could part with a bit. I have to mix some more up so hang ten if you want some.

Stu

[BenatCoffs]

Looks, smells n tastes like PVA, is it just PVA?

[finga]

Looks, smells n tastes like PVA, is it just PVA?
Mate, if your that hungry let me know and I'll send a jar of vegemite and a pack of SAO's down ;)

[Stuart]

Benatcoffs

If your asking me if it looks and smells and tasts like PVA, is it just PVA then you couldnt be further from the truth. Its clear and smells like.....well something I suppose. I have been building rods full time for 20 years and I can tell you now its nothing like that crap mate, give me a bit more credit than that. My rods are sold all around the world so it wouldnt be in my best interest to use Erskin or PVA on any of my rods. In fact I stoped using both around 15 years ago because both fade after time which makes the whole rod look.....well very cheap and nasty.

Stu

[craftycarp]

Anyone use thread with colour preserver already in it? and how does it compare?

[BenatCoffs]

Settle Stu!

Was just a loose comment that the Erskine stuff looks n smells like pva....

I have some of that speed stuff, smells so nasty I don't touch it. The Erskine stuff is heaps better in that regard.

If you (Stuart) were to package up little bottles of 'juice' then I would happily fork over appropriate $$$ for some also - especially if it is better than anything else on the market, and doesn't require an aspirator to use!

Together with your flash as CP, do you have any thoughts or preparations you use for epoxying? I am in the market for some more and whilst flexcoat is purdy, the 6 hours on a dryer isn't fun... something that goes off in 30 minutes would be sensational!

[Stuart]

Benatcoffs

No nead for me to settle mate, Im not pissed. Treat your thread with kid fingers, I mean dont rough handle the stuff or you will fluf up the material and when you coat you will be left with humps bumps and all sorts of stuff you will need to cut out before final coating. Their is some epoxy that goes off like flash gordon, Zpoxy in 5 minut or 30 minutes.

Stu

[BenatCoffs]

This stuff??

http://zap.supergluecorp.com/pt39.html

cures in 30 minutes, useable as binding epoxy?

I have been using the Lamar 15 minute stuff for handles, that stuff is sweet!

[finga]

Gees..that stuff would go off before I got the first guide done :-[

[Longshot]

If you must use the "Speed" type of thread sealer dilute it 50/50 with thinners at least then you give it a chance to dry out properly and not just on the surface.

[sid_fishes]

benatcoffs, mate 6 hrs for flexcoat, give me a break, lately mine has gone off a lot less than that cheers sid