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whichway
03-11-2007, 07:04 PM
Hi

Bought some Cooper Typres and they have a 50,000 km guarantee. But ... you have to take the car back every 10,000km and get a balance, rotation and alignment. Question is, what will the cost of 5 of these be for a 4wd. Am I just better off taking my chances without worrying about the balance (@ $262 per tyre) and seeing how many ks I get. I get 40k out of the Grandtrek that come with the car.

Regards

Whichway

FNQCairns
03-11-2007, 07:16 PM
Yeah it's not worth the paper it's written on, at least that was my interpretation when I got mine, think they need to stay on the blacktop also, forget exactly, lots of marketing style warrentys around. I had Yoko's on before the coopers, the coopers are a real doughy tyre, unresponsive everywhere but they are more aggresive than the yokos so that's the trade.

cheers fnq

Playdo98
03-11-2007, 08:35 PM
Is that a new warrenty that Cooper is offering.? I have a set of Cooper ST's on my Prado and have done roughly 55,000km and still have about 35-40% of tread left.

When I bought mine there was no warranty for tyres purchased outside of metropolitian areas due to the high claim rate. Cooper originally offered an 80,000km (I think) on their tyres until the mines got into the action and Cooper withdrew their offer. (funny that !!!!!)

I guess in metro areas 4x4 are used to traverse that tough black stuff which is torture on tyres ::) .

4x4frog
04-11-2007, 07:37 AM
Is that a new warrenty that Cooper is offering.? I have a set of Cooper ST's on my Prado and have done roughly 55,000km and still have about 35-40% of tread left.

When I bought mine there was no warranty for tyres purchased outside of metropolitian areas due to the high claim rate. Cooper originally offered an 80,000km (I think) on their tyres until the mines got into the action and Cooper withdrew their offer. (funny that !!!!!)

I guess in metro areas 4x4 are used to traverse that tough black stuff which is torture on tyres ::) .
It's the school pick-ups and shopping centre kerbing that does it. ;D

No wait, I know, the women wear them out because they all take a 20 point turn to get into parking spots...



Checked out the Cooper gaurentee, too many hoops to jump through, went with Michelins again.last set did over 60,000km

Benny01
04-11-2007, 08:16 AM
the tyre guarantee with any tyre brands isnt worth a whole lot. for example if you only get half the life of the tyre then they only pay for half the new tyre and you pay the other half.

grandtrek tyres are pretty ordinary for the price they are. Im guessing you have a parado or something similar. you should get alot more km's out the coopers.

its easy to check if your wheel alignment is out by running your hand over the tread. if it is smooth one way but grips your hand the other way then you have a toe problem. if the tyre is wearing well then your wheel alignment is pretty close.

tyre life depends on a million different things like pressure, driving style, location, rotation, roads etc, but id be running at least 40psi + in them to get most life

tunaticer
04-11-2007, 08:58 AM
Since the advent of roundabouts in this country I have noticed that the left hand side of the cars tyres wear faster than the right. Possibly partially due to the camber on the roads but moreso I suspect that having to deal with maybe a dozen roundabouts per trip where you would normally be driving straight is bound to have a fair impact on tyre life. Roundabouts are generally also higher speed corners than taking a normal corner as well due to the design to handle larger quantities of traffic faster.

As for warrantees for tyres, they basically will cover the cost of a replacement tyre in the event of a blowout due to tyre failure, any other problems will be blamed on environment, tyre abuse or mechanical problems with the vehicle. They would not offer it if they could not worm out of 99% of claims.

Jack.

wags on the water
04-11-2007, 09:23 AM
Whichway, if you read the really fine print, you'll find the guarantee is void if you take the car off the tar. This is supposed to be an offroad tyre. I found out the hard way and won't be buying them again.

whynott
04-11-2007, 01:16 PM
As the saying goes, If sounds to good to be true, it proberly is.

I tried to do a claim on one of my Coopers, (STTs)
AND THEY WILL TELL YOU WHY THEY CAN NOT REPLACE YOUR TIRE.
The warranty does not cover sidewalls, regardless what you may read in the Coopers ads, in the 4x4 magazines.
By sticking to my guns, and bit of dissagreement, I finally got the tire replaced.;)

Graham.

Scolers
05-11-2007, 08:57 AM
Whichway, if you read the really fine print, you'll find the guarantee is void if you take the car off the tar. This is supposed to be an offroad tyre. I found out the hard way and won't be buying them again.

It's true ... and a bit of a cheek when you thin about it as Coopers are supposed to be built for offroading ... ::) I know I wont be getting them again.

Scol.

finding_time
05-11-2007, 12:20 PM
Whichway

What type of tyre are they? I got 55000 km's out of my last set of stt's and that's on a patrol that is always carring at least 600-700 extra kg's!! At's or st's will last longer.

So dont worry about the waranty they will make 55 000 easily!!

Ian

ozbee
05-11-2007, 05:29 PM
oh there was a time when you could easily get 55ooo miles not k

4x4frog
06-11-2007, 09:08 AM
oh there was a time when you could easily get 55ooo miles not k
That's true, but that was when tyres were made of hard rubber and were considerably noisier than current compounds. Sure softer gives better ride and road holding but at what cost, your hip pocket is what.
I can remember back to the days when all our crew had 2 sets of tyres for their Jeeps. We had the road tyres, usually DUnlop and then the sand tyres for Fraser, normally a LeHarve grooved tyre. All they had as a longitudal groove around the tyre, like an aircraft tyre, perfect for the sand and quiet on the road too.