Pfluger Trion Graphite broken

[Red_Nut]

Team,
has anyone else had problems with their Pfluger graphite rods? Mine snapped about a foot down from the tip when line was being pulled out using the drag.

The worst bit is that this rod was brand new, never even got a chance to boat a fish. The rod broke in the process of rigging it.

Anyone experienced this before? Is there a batch of dodgy blanks around?

Cheers.

Ed.

[bayfisher]

No dramas here i have a 7ft, 6-10kg spin and a 7ft, 2-5kg spin. Both are OK, the 6-10kg got quiet a work out a couple of days ago on a big tuna, it was was bent into all sorts of shapes for 2 and a bit hours but stood up well. Sounds like it could have been just a dud. I would be going back to where you bought it and asking them what they can do about it.

Cheers Chris

[basskid]

The same thing happened to me along while back i had a strudwick sic stik pro and the night i brought it home i pulled the line through and whhaam it snapped and i took it back and no warranty what so ever and also at my work strudwicks keep on coming in broken all the time its frusturating isnt it!!!!

[zaraspook]

i snapped my pfluger trion 4-7kg caster exactly the same was. got it all rigged up, put the lure on the hook keeper and snap, wasnt nearly what i would call tight the rod tip had just a slight bow enough to take the slack, never even used it, took it back got a refund but very upset cuz i wanted to use it that day

[finga]

If I buy a rod I test them in the shop.
I take a reel...rig it....bung some load on it and play like it had a whopper on it.
That way if it breaks in the shop you can go to the next rod and try again.
Some of the better little tackle shops will even have a reel etc for you to try with just to see if you like the rig

[roydsy]

Yep, bought 2 exactly the same from BCF, snapped both of them within a few trips. Had the first one repaired, but then decided to take the other one back and they had to keep it for a few days then said they will replace it. Yep, and had to put up witht he usual SA remarks... oh did you slam it int he car door or put in the fan. ffs they know there is a problem with some of them yet they continue to sell these inferior rods. If another one breaks, I will be exchanging and upgrading.

It is a common problem with the trions.

I had one for a special charter offshore so i could flick plastics, and it broke first cast.I ended having to use the alveys on board and chucking heavy bait rigs down, I wasn't happy at my wasted plastics charter.

roydsy

[Horse]

The same thing happened to me along while back i had a strudwick sic stik pro and the night i brought it home i pulled the line through and whhaam it snapped and i took it back and no warranty what so ever and also at my work strudwicks keep on coming in broken all the time its frusturating isnt it!!!!

I heard the same thing but went ahead and bought one on special. It has survived everything from Tuna to a big Eagle Ray and pulled the kinks out of 10lb Fireline on a consistent basis. My brother has had breaks in dropshots as well, Most of these class of rods are built to a price so you can expect a few duds to show up. I would be disapointed if warranty was not honoured

[Little grey men]

There was a post on this subject a little while ago, judging from the feedback, people either had the same experience ie broken rods , or people loved them and have been using them for ages with no dramas. I've had mine for about a year and have been using it to catch all sorts of fish. I'm now using it to pull in bass and I love it. I've used it out west in the rivers and for flathead as well.
I think I got a good one.

[DHM77]

Red Nut,
I had a similar experience, brand new rod, tip snapped off casting a very light jig head and sp. Retailer changed it no questions asked, but did state that it was not a common problem with them. I would take it back and either exchange or get a refund.
Regards,
Dave

[Roo]

i've got 2 strudwick sicstik pro's and have had no problems with them....I have 2 Pfluegar Trions and have had no problems with them.....one of them is a little shorter than original but only because i cut it down to suit me better.

Cheers Roo.

[Jeremy87]

I sell a sh!t load of trions, i was under the impression that they were one of the better cheap graphite rods based on how few we have come back as compared to strudwick and the berkley dropshots.

As mentioned above i normally load rods up for customers and tell them that if you load it up like this you'll never brake this rod.

Sounds like alot of high tipping still going on. Alot of blokes will still deny it but thats because they weren't paying attention to the rod tip when it happened. Every now and then you have graphite rods do a random ping at the tip where they have been impacted during transit. Genuine warrently claims are usually when they brake right next to a guide foot when the binding has been put on to tight, this happens alot with some of the really cheap graphite rods and also when the rod comes in in several pieces nearer to the middle of the rod do we normally take it as a serious warranty claim.

[zaraspook]

Yeah i dont really agree, i do think it is a shame when you take a rod in for warranty and have to explain yourself to them only to acuse you, i have had a little trouble in the past. one such example happened to a live fibre wilson which snapped in half throwin a jackall

[poundalead]

I broke one at Lenthal's last week. I can't believe how many people have broken them! I hooked a small barra and bent down to release it while keeping the rod up high. It snapped about a 1/3 of the way down. High sticking is not recommended.........

[mad max]

iv used 2 and know of 2 people that use the trions with no problems at all..

they may be going through a bad batch or something like strudwick did a while back...

other than that, im 110% satisfied with my trion, and if i was going to buy another rod in that price range, i would buy another one.

[Jeremy87]

Yeah i dont really agree, i do think it is a shame when you take a rod in for warranty and have to explain yourself to them only to acuse you, i have had a little trouble in the past. one such example happened to a live fibre wilson which snapped in half throwin a jackall

What so tackle stores are ment to replace any broken rod on the spot no questions asked. Just look at the number of people here who have self confessed to high sticking their rod, it wouldn't be worth the effort selling graphite rods. not to mention lack of receits.

Warranty claims are agaisnt manufacturors faults and are ultimately approved by the manufacturor, if a bloke at a tackle store thinks its high sticked or crushed in a car door it means the rep will aswell and is probably trying to save you the hassle of hanging around without a rod and then when the rep comes round and says 'high stick tell him he's dreaming'.

[Roo]

What so tackle stores are ment to replace any broken rod on the spot no questions asked. Just look at the number of people here who have self confessed to high sticking their rod, it wouldn't be worth the effort selling graphite rods. not to mention lack of receits.

Warranty claims are agaisnt manufacturors faults and are ultimately approved by the manufacturor, if a bloke at a tackle store thinks its high sticked or crushed in a car door it means the rep will aswell and is probably trying to save you the hassle of hanging around without a rod and then when the rep comes round and says 'high stick tell him he's dreaming'.

Its for this very reason i don't place much faith in warranties. What good is Five year warranty if you can't prove it was a manf. fault after 4.5 years due to all the other knocks and scratches a rod will inevitably get. I reckon if its gonna fail due to maufacturers fault...that will happen straight away and I would expect the benefit of the doubt from the Manufacturer....otherwise if you've had it a while and it's seen a few fish......any kinks should have been found by now and you're on your own.
I'm not saying its Right....just that after a few weeks, its got to be hard to prove one way or another....

cheers Roo.

[mad max]

i agree roo with the warranty stuff

what i hate is when people bring their broken rod back, and expect you to give them a new one on the spot willy nilly, take their word for it that it snapped on a bream....and when u say na have to send it back....they get the shits at you and start bad mouthing your workplace....

get real

people complain about smart ass comments by the salesman etc, and plead their innocence in the matter, yeah fair enough it may be a fault....but theres a hell of alot of rods that come back that are broken because people arent using them correctly, also sometimes these shops get 10 rods back a week....if they replaced every one of them no questions asked then they wouldnt be in business.

[Fletch]

I have 11 Trion rods (several different models) and have flogged them to death for around 4 years, in this time, I have broken 5 rods, 4 in one go in the car door :-( and the other one I stood on :-(, its hard to imagine a bad batch in these rods, mine have performed extremely well and for the price, they are very hard to beat :-). In saying that, in the same time frame, I have broken two Loomis rods, one live fibre, one Strudwick and a Pflueger Medalist, so i figure I am just to rough on my gear :-)

[mamu]

Funny you should mention this, I snapped my Trion in half at the two piece join while trying to pull the plug up from the bottom.
That wasnt the major problem. It was the two and a half weeks it spent in the shop (G.C. t.v. reporter owned) supposedly getting fixed only to be told we cant repair it and we were waiting for parts. IT'S NOT A FUGGIN CAR! What parts!!
I took it to Budds at Cleaveland and it was repaired for $30. under three days and a damn nice job too.
It wasnt a warrenty claim as the rod was way past that, but it did strike me, Why did the rod break at the join?
As for the reps issue in past posts, they have a duty of care to the shops they are selling to, as well as looking after budgets, which usually dont have much allocated for freebies, so they walk a fine line on pissing Joe Blow consumer off or pissing their boss off.
mamu

[Jeremy87]

I have 11 Trion rods (several different models) and have flogged them to death for around 4 years, in this time, I have broken 5 rods, 4 in one go in the car door :-( and the other one I stood on :-(, its hard to imagine a bad batch in these rods, mine have performed extremely well and for the price, they are very hard to beat :-). In saying that, in the same time frame, I have broken two Loomis rods, one live fibre, one Strudwick and a Pflueger Medalist, so i figure I am just to rough on my gear :-)

I think you are very rough on your gear mate. In about 4years of using graphite rods i have snapped a grand total of 0 while fishing and a grand total of 0 from fans car doors ceiling etc. And from over 3 year of working in a tackle store i've only had 2 brake on me when loading them up on a customer. But lots of graphite rods get pulled out of there bag broken usually from transit and rough handling in the dock.

[Red_Nut]

Team - did I stir up a hornet's nest or what???

To the credit of my local tackle store they did agree that this break should not have happenned. They have requested the rep bring a replacement rod with his next visit.

I guess it does help to have a good relationship with your local store. This may have been a case of them knowing I would not try to scam them, this is the first thing I have returned to them in about 10 years of shopping there.

Now I look forward to enjoying some fishing time with the replacement rod, as the first one didn't get to flick a barra lure :)

Cheers.

Ed.

[Jeremy87]

Its for this very reason i don't place much faith in warranties. What good is Five year warranty if you can't prove it was a manf. fault after 4.5 years due to all the other knocks and scratches a rod will inevitably get.
cheers Roo.

Exactly, specially with reels now that okuma has put a 25 year warrenty on even there cheapest reels and shimano with its 10 year warrenty on its 20 and 30 dollar reels, at that price they are practically a disposable item, they are not designed to last 10 months let alone 10 years. but the catch is manufacturors faults so build up of corrosion and wearing of bearings and gears is all covered under maintinance and wear and tear. As long as the something doesn't physically brake they won't normally touch it.

Something i think everyone should be aware of aswell with summer almost upon us is hot cars kill more than dogs, they can weaken the epoxy base in both graphite and fibreglass (especially glass) rods. This coupled with any sought of bend or load on the rod can kink and even brake rods. And yes you can tell the difference between this sought of brake and a failure through use, where the epoxy cools it contracts and fuses the fibres back together. I had a heap of rods come back like this last christmas and the ones where customers insisted on a warranty assessment were all disappointed to here the results from the reps. To add insult to injury the reps don't show up to stores very often during christmas cause they're flat out so it can often take ages for an assessment if it isn't posted down.