Tcurve 2pc

[rando]

I bought a Tcurve 15-24 kg two piece a couple of months ago . And it has been sitting in the tackle cupboard waiting for a reel to keep it company So this week I got myself a spheros 14ooo and couldnt wait to try them out.
I took them out for a run ( but didnt get the opportunity to fish them.) Looking to make a bit of fishing room I took the two piece apart to store it.
What a job... the ferrule is just above the fore grip and it took a huge amount of force to separate the pieces.
I realise that this part of the rod takes all the pressure, but it was so tight i could barely move it.
Got home applied a bit of inox spray to make it easier, but it mabe it tighter instead. I had to twist it out and it took 15 minutes of straining to get it to separate.

Now I am pretty sure this is TOOOO tight a fit .Should i return it and ask for a replacement, Its several months old but unused.

Or is a bit of sanding called for, and if so how snug a fit does it need to take the strain of fighting the many HUUUGGE fish I am intending to catch with it.;D

[Roo]

try rubbing the male bit(no pun intended) behind your ear!! worked well on my old Black Queen with metal ferrules to stop then "bonding" permanently. Ear wax is a handy lubricant(you can take that how you like);D ;D

cheers roo.

[banshee]

Prety normal for the T Curves,I would not be sanding any off the male piece instead try useing a tight fitting dish washing glove and imbed the base of the male section(just above the fore grip of the bottom piece) firmly in the crease where your fingers meet your hand,once it's burried in there get a tight grip and rotate the two pieces in opposite directions,at some stage the skin and glove become one and lock on to the rod,just after this is acieved the seal will break and the two bits will seperate,have not found one yet that I can't seperate with this procedure.

[rando]

Banshee
I had to use one of those rubber "grip" squares that you use to get a grip on jars and lids and such.
Even so it took 15 minutes of twisting to get them apart,, I am 6ft and 96 kg so i am no whimp and it took every bit of my strength to get them apart. even after it was lubricated with inox.
surely i dont have to do that every time I want to store the rod.
cheers
rando

[banshee]

Mine lives as a one piece now but generaly with the glove you can break the seal and twist it out in one or two grabs.My mate couldn't live with his the way it was and gave it a very light sand that resulted in the bottom section of the rod droping off every time it was picked up by the top half,the rod still performed well on fish though.

[mattooty]

Mate from everything ive read on the net and other forums the t-curves are reknowned for becoming 1 piece rods! you're not alone!
Try pure bees wax. Might be a bit hard to source but i use it on all my rods and ive neve rhad issues on any. A mate has it on one of his t curves and so far it hasnt frozen up!

[rando]

I wonder if this problem is pneumatic .? If the fit is so tight it seals, making it hard to pull apart due to a vacumn being created in the join. That would at least explain why when i lubricated the two halfs the grip was tighter rather than looser. Maybe if i etched a groove down the male part .....????

[Roo]

I wonder if this problem is pneumatic .? If the fit is so tight it seals, making it hard to pull apart due to a vacumn being created in the join. That would at least explain why when i lubricated the two halfs the grip was tighter rather than looser. Maybe if i etched a groove down the male part .....????

it will not like that. would be likely to weaken the surface and crush under load. not a good idea. Try the wax first!!

[freddofrog]

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I wonder if this problem is pneumatic .? If the fit is so tight it seals, making it hard to pull apart due to a vacumn being created in the join. That would at least explain why when i lubricated the two halfs the grip was tighter rather than looser. Maybe if i etched a groove down the male part .....????

it will not like that. would be likely to weaken the surface and crush under load. not a good idea. Try the wax first!!

But I like the out of box thinking rando, pneumatic, very good...

[Roo]

But I like the out of box thinking rando, pneumatic, very good...

Opposite really, absence of atmosphere would be Vacuum;)

This is the principle that makes most PVA glues work so well with joinery, Its not the PVA being super sticky.....its the vacuum created by excluding atmosphere between close fitting parts! same as 2 flat pieces of glass and a little water.:thumbsup:

[rando]

Orbyroo
I was referring to the space inside the join. When you force the two pieces together you expel and or compress the air in the cavity.
This might happen over a period of time. The compressed air is slowly released.
You now have equalized pressure inside the cavity.
Now try and remove the male part . If the join is so tight that air can't enter at the same rate as the volume of the cavity increases ,,,vacuum.
Applying a layer of lubricant between the contact surfaces only improves the seal,like when you lube the washer in a bike pump.
As to the groove i referred to previously, tiny 1/8-1/4 mm and just enough to allow air in/out.
It seemed to me you had the idea i was suggesting to gouge out a big piece.
Just thinking out loud:):)

[Fishin_Dan]

Your rod is just being like a bait pump really innit Rob ;)

[Flex]

I have the exact same problem with my T-curve. I find sometimes it comes apart really easy and the next time its hard as hell. dont ask me why though:)

[rando]

Gday Dan
Hows things in FNQ,
I know ,,,, Beer cold, girls pretty, fishing great,,, I'm jealous you lucky bastard;D

[Fishin_Dan]

he he he he - Works for me mate :D How's everything going for you?

If the lower half of the 2 piece is hollow, you could cut the very end off the butt section & then it would take away your problem ;)

[Roo]

he he he he - Works for me mate :D How's everything going for you?

If the lower half of the 2 piece is hollow, you could cut the very end off the butt section & then it would take away your problem ;)

Bingo!!

although, Mattooty mentioned the bees wax worked for him.....why don't you try the simple option first before you cut anything.
Air pressure is funny thing that we all take a bit for granted. 14.7lb/sq Inch is a fair bit......about 1 ton per sq. Metre.


I'm not smart........I googled;)

[rando]

Yeah Good call Orbyroo,
Although Im skeptical, if inox wont do it.....

Dan
Sorry I missed having that beer with you before you left.... next time your down hey!!
Rob