Rod for deep water plastics

[Blue_Escape]

I have a Daiwa Freams 4500J loaded with 15kg braid. Any suggestions for a rod that will handle 5kg drag suitable for deep water plastics.

Cheers
Blue

[jm82]

Egrell S10

[simonpp82]

Egrell S8..

[catfish55]

are ther any info on these egrell rods on the net?????????

[matt__hill]

the loomis pro blue are also nice sticks there is a 7 footer that is rated 15-25lb ad runs 35lb over it easy


cheers matt

[Blue_Escape]

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'll add the Egrell's & the Loomis to the "shopping list" ;)

Blue

[Blue_Escape]

Catfish,
try www.egrell.com.au (http://www.egrell.com.au) also search the forum for (offshore) reports by Frank00 and Bear.

Cheers
Blue

[bayfisher]

No doubt both loomis and egrell are great rods but what sort of price range are you looking in?

Cheers Chris

[Blue_Escape]

Yeh,
good comment Chris, should've mentioned....I would prefer to stay around the $200 mark....I think the Egrell & Loomis are around the $350 :P but I might be able to work on "The Mistress of Finance" ;)

Cheers

Blue

[mikeyh]

Hi Guys,
following this thread and just been onto the Egrell website and a bit confused :-/ Cant see an S8...just an S6 and S10. What is the difference between the Bear range and the Egrell range? Thanks..Mike

[The BeaR]

Mike...The difference between the Egrell range and The BeaR range is all in the blank. The BeaR uses IM Graphite material and The Egrell range uses HM Graphite material.
They are both rolled using carbon helix cores. For a more detailed explanation refer to the FAQ page on our website www.egrell.com/faq.html (http://www.egrell.com/faq.html)

Before I answer the question about the S8, I need to know the length of the rod in question as there was an S8 brought out by the previous company that I worked for and we do not have that particular rod in our current range. I have done a couple of custom ones though.

Eric&Deb

[mikeyh]

Hey Bear (Eric),
no luck today accessing the FAQ on your website but will keep trying. I saw the other night that the distribution agents only come as far north as Gympie. Anything in the far north? Also are the comments about looking after graphite rods generic in terms of avoiding breakage....are they pretty fragile?? I only have a couple of graphite rods and havent really treated them with kid gloves.....never broken any rods yet (fingers crossed). All my rod breakages have been in transit :-[
cheers, Mike

[bayfisher]

I dont do to much heavy deep water sp stuff but do have a 7 foot pfluegler graphite spin rod (sp4770) rated at 6-10kg which i use for deep sp and it does pretty well, only round the $120 mark too. A shimano 7foot6, raider snapper is also worth a look at around the same price.

Cheers Chris

[craigie]

Blue Escape,

I too am going down this road looking for an offshore Snapper Plastics rod.

Anybody got any thoughts or comments on an 8' pro blue (12 - 25lb).
Pro's & cons in comparison to the 7' rods mentioned above ??

Mainly looking to play with 5" to 7" placcies on 1/2 to 1oz jiggies in anything from 20 to 80m of water.

Not hijacking this thread, just adding a few more options.

Cheers
Craigie.

[simonpp82]

Hey eric (Bear),
The S8 rod in question is 7'6, got it about 3-4 months ago. I organised it through roderick... maybe you know the one??

[The BeaR]

Mike...

The "tips for graphite rodz" on our website are generic when it comes to the graphite ranges of rodz. Graphite is a very strong material but can bruise quite easily if left bouncing around in the bottom of the boat for example. Strength wise, a graphite rod is at the top, but it will break the easiest if put under the wrong type of pressure, such as high sticking where all the pressure is put on the tip, it is not as flexible as fibreglass, and this is where the misconception comes that graphite needs to be treated with kid gloves as you say.
Certainly the rod will handle more than the stated 45degree angles, but if you keep your rod angles low, you not only reduce the risk of rod breakage but you are actually increasing the potential fighting power of the rod while at the same time reducing the effort involved in fighting the fish. This method also applies to fiberglass. Hope this helps.

Simon...

I know the rod you speak of, the rod was actually dezigned as a Moreton Bay spin rod for casting metal lures. As 98% of my fishing is done with SP, in my honest opinion the S8 is not a Soft Plastics rod. The S10 is specifically dezigned for fishing big plastics for big fish. The tip in the S10 willl enable you to impart the action needed in the plastic, whether it be by sharp lifts or by the most subtle of tip movements which can sometimes make all the difference in a days fishing. With a butt section powerful enough to handle some of the largest species that you may encounter. I fish my S10's with over 5kg of Drag Pressure. All in a rod that is light enough to fish all day without coming home feeling fatigued and sore.
All that being said, at the end of the day, it's the enjoyment you get from the gear you choose that makes for a great day fishing.

Eric&Deb...

[craigie]

The BeaR,

I'm interested in knowing a little more about the S10 and what reel/s you match to them for your deep plastic work ??
Would you consider an s10 suitable for targeting snapper ? Not overkill ?
30 lb braid ?

I'm a complete novice looking to get up to speed.

Cheers and Thanks,

Craigie.

[The BeaR]

Craig…The Egrell S10 has been specifically dezigned to use big soft plastics for big fish such as Snapper. My S10’s are all matched with Daiwa Certates spooled with 30lb spiderwire and I use 40lb Black magic leader. When targeting Snapper, I use 5-7” Gambler and Assassin Soft-Plastics rigged on T/T jigheads with 7/0 heavy wire hooks. The weight of the jighead will depend on the conditions and depth of the water, which is anything up to 80mtrs when I go fishing, and it will also depend on where the fish are sitting in the water column as to which weight I use.
There are a lot of things that need to be considered when fishing, and as far as the S10 is concerned, it is perfect for deep soft-plastic fishing.
If you are interested in a more in depth detail of things, check out my threads via my public profile as there are quite a few on Snapper and they are all caught on the Egrell S10.

Eric&Deb…

[Blue_Escape]

Eric,
since Craig "hijacked" my thread ::) and you're getting lots of good advertising off it ;) do you think I could get a special discount on purchase of a new S10?!?;D

Please feel free to PM me with details8-)

John

[grave41]

I have the loomis as mentioned and the s 10 .I prefer the s10 as its a bit lighter in the tip the loomis i could tos a brick with . But i take them both with me.
Graham

[breamoholic]

Don't forget the nitro innovator magnum butt or the viper. Both good rods for the money.
Cheers!

[3Vs]

I have the Loomis 844S with a Freams at the moment - very happy with the oufit. Had found my previous outfit with a 20lb rod could not stand up to AJs and the like offshore.