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HH17L
13-06-2007, 08:26 AM
Just spotted this on Ebay, looks to have had a decent amount of damage, might be a good buy for someone here. If only i hadn't had to pay that damn tax bill, it would probably be sitting in my yard. Has anyone had a look at it?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Haines-Hunter-600c_W0QQitemZ200118632050QQihZ010QQcategoryZ10269 8QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Andrew.

sid_fishes
13-06-2007, 04:01 PM
why would you even think about it? sid

cormorant
13-06-2007, 04:38 PM
There is only one thing to remember with this ( I know nothing of this particular boat but..).
It really is an insurance company
damage is so bad they had to Write it off completely
Damage is so bad they couldn't even force client to take it at salvage value
damage is so bad that proffessional buyers and restorers didn't want a bar of it. (yes they offer it to professionals when assessing it and then if not enough value they try the dumb public
still a production boat so wreckers don't want it as all gear is still avaliable from manufacturer
Motor 97 Johno - wreckers won't touch V6 ficht 1997
Fibregllass is classified as a hazardous material so dumping the hull at the tip after stripping is expensive. illegally placing in a skip or landfill is $200,000 plus fine.

The insurers are trying to recover better than salvage cost by dumping it on someone unsuspecting at a high value
Like cars boats this bad should be destroyed or parted only
Think if you were the buyer after it was done up and resprayed crossing a bar with it

Insurers should be stopped from selling off structurally unrepairable boats to the general public without an agreement that it will not be rebuilt without certification by surveyer / shipwright and manufacter if current

Oh well that's my daily rant about insurance companies starting with the letter G

Marlin_Mike
13-06-2007, 04:43 PM
gotta agree cormorant

why bother?

Mike

blaze
13-06-2007, 04:52 PM
has potential IMO, the cost of repair for a NON PROFIT is no where near what a pro restorer would charge to do the job
cheers
blaze

stark
13-06-2007, 05:13 PM
Looks to me like the boat had a visit to the bottom of the pond. The laminates and glass all around looks sus. Would need to have a very close look and see if the hull can be restored. The motor may well be a write-off if it did visit the bottom and was not striped & flushed.

Cheers
John

fish-freak
13-06-2007, 06:07 PM
Shame, would have been a nice boat once!! That's no way to treat a haines!. cheers daz...

juju
13-06-2007, 06:55 PM
Poor Haines..........but taking that on as a project....ergh ..shiver....

BM
13-06-2007, 08:14 PM
I'd have to agree that salvage value on the hull is a bit high. Based on what I see, which would be worse in the flesh salvage value is probably around $4K assuming the engine didn't take a dive.....

Be worth grabbing at the right dollar for sure although I reckon the damage to the hull, combined with the damage region to the port side screen area and internal cabin cracking, suggests that shes got a broken spine.....

It would be a deck off, floor out new stingers job most likely but for someone with the time on their hands and the knowledge it would be either a very cheap 600C or a great repairer and resaler for a fantastic profit.

Email the seller and offer them $4K for it. Also tell em they can contact me as a boat dealer if they wish to verify my salvage value.

Cheers

ozscott
13-06-2007, 11:47 PM
isnt this the one that there was a thread about some months ago that was run up onto rocks near fisherman island?

Blackened
14-06-2007, 06:17 AM
G'day

Ozscott, the one that ran up onto rocks at fisherman had a honda on the back, and was a much newer boat.

In regards to this particular boat.... run a chainsaw through it.

Dave

finga
14-06-2007, 06:55 AM
I just wished I had the knowledge and abilities to restore.:'(
I'd be asking a few (lots) of questions first and a decent gander at the motor would be a must.
The condition of it would have to be a big bearing on the overall price.
This seller is a reseller of broken crap. Have a gander of his last auction
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Devil-Cat_W0QQitemZ200115637942QQihZ010QQcategoryZ102698 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Got a spare month or six for this one Blaze??

Shanoss
14-06-2007, 08:29 AM
would a 600c be about the same size as a V213c? That trailer would loook much nicer under my boat

Chris Ryan
14-06-2007, 09:01 AM
Maybe if you could get the hull at a OK price, it might make a potential plug for a mould to then recast a new hull??? Don't have any experience with this but would that be possible?

cbs
14-06-2007, 09:23 AM
I reckon the best solution to this is:

Assuming that the moter is easily and cheaply repairable :)

Strip the thing back, cut the cabin off at coaming height, repair the hull and structure. build a platform on the bunk tops, add a centre console and use the existing hardtop. throw away the rest.

After a hell of a lot of work, you have a 6m centre console for 10-15 grand.

Anything is fixable with glass, it's just a matter of how much time and effort to do it.

finga
14-06-2007, 09:24 AM
Just out of curiosity....what would one of those suckers be worth in good nick??

fishingrod
21-06-2007, 12:33 AM
familiar ? Taken from Afloat Magazine Jan 2007 issue. www.afloat.com.au (http://www.afloat.com.au)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c369/fishingbasket/afloatsave0020.jpg

cheers
Rod

Blackened
21-06-2007, 07:27 AM
G'day

Good find rod, looks as though its all their own fault.... idiots

Dave

KGW3
22-06-2007, 02:37 PM
The motor may be Ficht ...

bungie
22-06-2007, 04:24 PM
He must have been flying to get it up that high

ashh
22-06-2007, 05:17 PM
wow, that would have been scary for all on board

Edencraft
22-06-2007, 09:21 PM
Just looking at the pics it would be a huge job to repair the boat properly. All holes in hull would need to be 16:1 scarfed to meet loyds standard before laying your laminate stack, floor would need to be removed to scarf inside hull, check stringers etc. I would bet there is probably transom damage etc etc just way to much work to do it right.

The idea of using the hull as a plug is a good one though, strip everything of her and sell it, remove the deck, bog and glass the hull. Make any changes required spray with high build and finish off and you would have a cheap hull plug but would still need to build a mould of it which to do right would cost you 15k in materials to do right and then you would need to design and build a deck mould and all the small parts mouldings again a lot of hard work.

Personnally think the best thing for it is a chain saw.

Lovey80
22-06-2007, 10:04 PM
I cant believe either of those heaps of crap sold for what they did. Another example of bidding wars gone wrong? They should have to be surveyed and told "never to be restored" then added to the future artificial reef in a very baron spot on Moreton Bay. ;)

Just my thoughts Cheers Chris