Bream Line Pain In the Butt!!

[Sean]

I have always had trouble with the line I use when casting plastics and poppers for bream. I used to use Berkley Fireline but got the shi.s with the loops that get formed under the line, then you cast out and have a knot. This happened mainly when the line was new >:(

. I use Daiwa spinning reels.

I changed over to Berkley Crystal and found this to be better but now the line is getting a bit old it is starting to do the loopty loop!!:'(

What line does everyone use for this style of fishing? Maybe give it a rating out of 10, taking into consideration: Cost, Strength, castability, longevity and finally, Does it do the loopty loop!!!

Thanks, Sean:)

BTW, I use around 5-10lb breaking strain

[berkley]

do u use backing if so strip about 10 arm legths off that should work if not, and i would use 4lb because firline brakes at 8lb because its not a true braid

[JT]

Hi Sean,

I use Berkley Fireline for all my breaming, (2lb Crystal and 4 & 6lb standard Fireline), when the line is new you always tend to get loops in it as its so stiff, you will have noticed that it becomes much easier to use after the first couple of sessions. The main reason for the loops is that a lot of time when you are retrieving line its not under any pressure so it lays loose on the spool.

I don't think there is much you can do to stop this happening, but what I do do when the line is new is look at the spool more often to check for those loops and every now and then cast out and then put the line under some tension with your fingers on a quick retrieve to get it nice and tight on the spool again. I have found doing this helps a lot until it settles. I haven't found any problems with the line when it gets older other than it gets a bit furry or fluffy. When this happens I just reverse the line on the spool so all the new stuff at the bottom of the spool is now at the top.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

John

[breamnut]

do u use backing if so strip about 10 arm legths off that should work if not, and i would use 4lb because firline brakes at 8lb because its not a true braid
it breaks at more then twice its breaking strain!
4lb would break at around 12lb
take 1 pound crystle for example! look at how hard that is to break!
i use fireline but am looking at that new sunline cast away

[MobileBoatCanopies]

I have had a similar problem with Fireline. I ended up stripping it onto another reel and re spooling it while running it through 3fingers in a _/o\o/o\_ pattern. Haven't had any problems since.

[Sean]

Thanks guys. mobile boat canopies, no problems apart from the ends of your 3 fingers missing from the fireline cuts

[MobileBoatCanopies]

I quickly figured out that i should be going slowly after the first blood spurt. LOL

[alleycat]

Mate if you want to stop all the problems just run the line through first 2 fingers on hand holding rod in front of reel, this puts a bit of tension on line before its wound on and also lets you feel every bump, try it.

[johnlikes2fish]

Platypus super 100 fraction of the price easy to use. Or if you like tghe feel of braid try platypus lo stretch. Mono all the way

[Jeremy87]

PE its worth a shit load because its good basically. soft fin and doesn't throw loops like fireline does. Also brakes at roughly its stated strength. i have it on most of my reels now. I'd have to say even the low stretch is never going to give you the same feel as braid and the extra thickness really hinders casting distance.

[johnlikes2fish]

I know braid casts further but for breaming I cannot remember the last time I cast to my max distance to hit a snag or whatever. When you say feel what does braid have that mono doesnt is it the stretch in mono? If so mono has to be pulled before it stretches so should feel the bite anyway, a friend of mine says with braid you have just spent $100 compared to $20 for something which does the same job so it is highly likely that you will think its better or you look like a porker something similar to the placebo effect. Braid has its place in fishing but my opinion is good marketing is its main advantage over mono.

[imnotoriginal]

Couldn't disagree with you more John! Braids and fireline have many big advantages which I find make it far easier to use. It doesn't have the memory that most monos have, so it doesn't stay in loops when it comes off the reel, which for me makes it far more manageable. It's also a lot thinner, which means it casts further with less effort and has less wind and water resistance, which makes fishing in wind and current much easier. That, combined with the lack of stretch puts you in better contact with your lure. I've fished plastics with mono, you can still do it, but it's much easier with braid. Even when the line's not completely taut I can feel the bumps of timid fish on plastics, bumps I wouldn't feel (particularly on the drop) if using mono. This is even more noticeable in difficult conditions. And while knots are harder to tie, I find the little knots that sometimes happen slip out far easier than with mono. Just my opinion mate, but I think braid's a lot more valuable than you give it credit for, and well worth the extra money.
Joel

[matt__hill]

go the sunline castaway awesome stuff. fireline is too stiff and frays after 50-100 cast cheap rubbish i recun.


cheers matt

[corby12]

totaly agree with imno will never go back to mono. if you hav'nt tried braid, give it a go you will see the difference.
But each to their own as long as we are out there having a go

[swaters]

hey, i have used braid for bream for a long time, i have tried fireline and just plain old flurocarbon. so far i have seen that braid works best for me, i use 6lb powerstrike braid, its the thinnist braid on the market and the strongest.

platypus braid is also good, i have a spare spool of this stuff its not the new stuff its the old stuff, but platypus lasts a long time, but i dont like the way it casts.

hope my comm,ent helpeped a little bit, ;D

stuart

[geoff72]

dont know if this helps but i had pink fireline on and lost nearly the whole spool to air knotts in a couple of months,switched back to green and not a knott since,i spool my own reels and did nothing different when putting on the pink. spoke to some guys in tackle shops and they said the pink is not a smooth as the green.

[Jeremy87]

I know braid casts further but for breaming I cannot remember the last time I cast to my max distance to hit a snag or whatever. When you say feel what does braid have that mono doesnt is it the stretch in mono? If so mono has to be pulled before it stretches so should feel the bite anyway, a friend of mine says with braid you have just spent $100 compared to $20 for something which does the same job so it is highly likely that you will think its better or you look like a porker something similar to the placebo effect. Braid has its place in fishing but my opinion is good marketing is its main advantage over mono.
I make max casts all the time when chasing bass and when chasing bream on the flats. The number of fished that get spooked because of the boat/canoe is ridiculous so i try to put in as many long casts as i can, an extra 5 metres can often be the difference between a hit and a follow. It's a combination of stretch and diametre that gives braid better feel. A thicker line with greater stretch is going to create more belly in your line which means the bite has to be more dramatic to take out the belly and send the shock wave up your line. This is pretty much common knowledge, its why people fish with lighter poundage line and the reason you recommended low stretch mono. The stretch factor comes comes into play mostly when working lures, greater tension means your rod movements are reflected by you lure movements. To me it sounds like you've never used braid before, I don't make any comments of this web site unless its from personal experience, 60 bucks is about the most you can spend on enough braid to fill a bream reel. If you want to chuck 300 yards of 50lb jigging braid on a big bluewater reel then yeh $100-120 is probably more like it. Mono has not by any means been rendered useless by braid, sometimes extra stretch is important but when it comes to fishing for bream owith rubbers you need all the sensitivity you can get.

[boombah]

Fire line has an advantage over traditional braids as it is springier and flyes off the real easier....once it is worn in......braids are more supple but tends to come off in loops when doing extremely light sp work etc......Hint....I use a Daiwa GC 50 closed face real with 4 lb fireline.....these quality closed face reels outperform normal eggbeaters because line release is so controlled that you dont have the same looping and birdsnest issues that light lure work can produce....the main negative is that they have a restricted line capacity so you will be in trouble if something larger jumps on for a ride....