Navara stx D40 2.5 td [Archive] - Ausfish fishing Australia, Australian Angling Forums

thedeckie

15-05-2007, 10:12 PM

Greg,
I have the latest STX, nearly done 11000k's, it's the 4.0l petrol auto, so far it has been ok, just a few things that have annoyed me.

The headlights aren't real flash (before someone says put spotties on it,if they were half decent in the first place I wouldnt have to), shits me having to take the keys out of the ignition to open the fuel cap door, has no button on the inside to open it, maybe a saftey thing....dunno!

One of the quarter glasses in the window is loose and rattles, the vent cover for the a/c at the drivers feet fell out today, no height adjustment for the seat but generally not needed (but would be nice to have) as they are a fairly comfortable seat.

All the electronics for the the 4wd is obviously state of the art, this car has a mind of its own when bogged it sort of wants to do its own thing which I found annoying.

Loves the juice, all in all, generally I like it, just a few things that bug me.

What I will say is, the sucker has got a mountain of grunt.

Cheers
Paul

maxi

16-05-2007, 10:28 AM

Thanks for your honest feedback Paul:) , you said you got bogged:'( , do you think the car is generally good in the sand or not.

Cheers,
Greg

thedeckie

16-05-2007, 10:43 AM

Probably a bit of a deceiving statement there about being bogged, we actually were trying to get bogged to test some off road equipment, I was in 4wd and tried to put the car in 2wd to really bury it, problem is the bloody thing was too smart and knew that it was bogged and wouldn't let the car engage into 2wd.

I have been to Double Island a few times now and generally fine in the soft stuff, last time I went up I towed a trailer and in my haste to get back home left on an incoming tide which had me basically from Freshwater to the first cutting in the soft, had no problems at all, although I did chew through a heap of juice which you would expect, poor thing was working pretty hard with the trailer on, basically dragged the trailer through the soft stuff.

Geez Maxi, you dont really think Nissan's get bogged by themselves do ya!!!!

Cheers
Paul

maxi

16-05-2007, 01:18 PM

Paul,
I have never owned a Nissan but I think that is about to change, all the reviews on this vehicle indicate they are market leaders in there field.

Thanks for your help mate:)

Roo

16-05-2007, 02:35 PM

Not sure if this was scuttlebutt or good info, but worth a mention. A bloke @ a Renown 4x4 accessories chain store mentioned teething issues with the manual gearbox on the STX TD. Apparently not surviving the torque loads from the beaut TD engine. He thought the older model was very tough and a better buy for now.
Not sure if this was genuine as he is a self confessed Hilux man.

Flyin Tiger

23-05-2007, 11:34 PM

Maxi
I tow my 1.8 tonne Kevlacat with a 2003 model diesel Navara & am very happy with the performance. Cruise along at 95 to 100 kph on the flats and dont have to change down too many gears on the hills. Have done 95,000ks with no motor/gearbox problems etc.........
Cheers Chris.

hando1978

24-05-2007, 05:28 PM

G'Day,

I took delivery of a new ST-X TD in the 6 speed manual yesterday.

Took it on the highway last night, drove just like a sedan. Nice and quiet, you only really get the diesel noise at slower speeds.

I don't know what some people are complaining about when they say that it is sluggish ... this may be true if you are comparing it to a Clubsport!

3 Tonne towing capacity is a bonus.

Cheers,

Geoff

john johanson

12-09-2007, 07:04 PM

Looking to purchase a Navara stx, has anyone had any experience with them. I have to tow a 6mtr platey, any feedback appreciated.

Cheers,
Greg
Yes Greg I purchased a D40 Navara 2.5 diesel stx auto 4/06 travelled 38000ks. Very satisfied with comfort ,handling ,performance and economy tow a 5.6 mtr inboard/outboard bowrider tows with ease up from Batemans Bay to Williamsdale south of Canberra, also tow a horse float. On a recent trip to Wilberforce return towing the float ,approx 700 ks fuel consumption 14.5 ltrs per 100 ks using cruise control set at 105 on freeway. I am very happy with the ute (have owned a varity of 4wd utes and waggons over the past 25 years). I must admit I have one problem wich the dealer has yet to fathom out . At around 2000rpm approx 100 kph under load up a slight incline with the float on it gets a vibration in overdrive. I am booked in to take the ute in with the float and demonstrate the problem on a peice of smooth freeway. Would be interested if anyone else reading this email has a similar problem.
Cheers
John J

roydsy

13-09-2007, 08:25 AM

I am also about to purchase either a

navara STX 3.0DT Dual cab

triton GLX-R 3.2DT Dual cab

Personally, I like the sleeker look of the triton, but ask people's opinions on there preference and why.

Also, i am looking at registering an ABN, whats the tax implications or requirements to get an ABN price on a new vehicle?

cheers
Roydsy

Mtx

13-09-2007, 08:44 AM

dont know about the Navara as such, but I have just bought a Pathfinder TI with the 2.5TD (4000ks on it now).

So far, excellent car. Great power for a 2.5, tows with ease and drives really well.

roydsy

13-09-2007, 08:54 AM

So is the 2.5D a newer engine then the 3.0D being used.

In other words, which is better for fuel economy to power ratio?

Ian1

13-09-2007, 08:55 PM

I think there is a little confusion about the STX here. The STX is the new shape navara and quite different to the DX.
I have an STX with about 14000kms and Im not that impressed with the build quality. Sure its nice to drive and has tonnes of grunt but it allready has annoying rattles and a constant squeak in the front end that nissan can't find the source of. I had a look under it the other day and found a large nut hidden in an exhaust heat shield......mmm were the.....did that come from. Anyway i removed the nut and the sqeak is still there.
I previously owned a Landcruiser ute that was 14 years old, 12 years of which I owned it and it had less rattles then the new STX.
I am not condeming the new one just yet but its not off to a great start.

Cheers

Ian

bassgirl

22-09-2007, 09:36 PM

25 years).

I must admit I have one problem wich the dealer has yet to fathom out . At around 2000rpm approx 100 kph under load up a slight incline with the float on it gets a vibration in overdrive. I am booked in to take the ute in with the float and demonstrate the problem on a peice of smooth freeway. Would be interested if anyone else reading this email has a similar problem.
Cheers
John J

Yes, we had the same problem with our Navara STX..... it was like you were going over the vibrations on the side of the road, & like you say.... only going up an incline around 100ks towing something .... it annoyed hubby something shocking >:( ..... anyway, Garry Cricks in Nambour sorted it out.... I will have to ask hubby tomorrow for more details as he is asleep at the moment.... but it is running perfectly now :) ..... some additive.....

He is really happy with the power towing the boat.... heaps of power up hill..... but he also comments how the headlights are crap & has fitted spotlights.... but is still not really happy.... something about the bullbar being in the way.... OK on high beam but low beam not good..... we have some better bulbs but hasn't had a chance to install them as yet.....

Also, the speedo is out about 7klms..... we kept wondering why everyone was overtaking us!

bassgirl

23-09-2007, 10:49 AM

As regards to the last post....

Was told by Garry Cricks because they don't use asbestos in clutch plates anymore, they have problems with slipping clutch plates. Apparently, Mitsuibishi have had similar problems for years & by adding a friction modifier to transmission oil solves slipping problems, which they have done to mine, as has solved the problem & have recently heard of another one with the same problems.

Hope this helps!

Motoben

23-10-2007, 01:26 PM

Ian1

Would love to know if you can find out what that annoying sqeak is, as i have the same thing, that is drving me batty... >:(

KAGEY1

23-10-2007, 05:36 PM

John J ,you Shouldn't Be Towing Any Decent Amount Of Weight In Overdrive, Especially Up Any Sort Of Grade. Light Loads On The Flat Only. Overdrive Is For Cruising Only.
Cheers, Geoff

TheRealAndy

23-10-2007, 05:47 PM

I too just picked up a new STX. Had it 2 weeks so far. Took it up the A-Break at Mt Mee last wekend and it just walked up the hill. I have the 2.5 deisel auto. To be honest I am really stunned by the engine, not at all like the diesel's i drove when i was younger. The thing almost drives like a petrol engine.

The only thing I dont like is the lack of space for a second battery. There is some space under the tray behind the rear wheels and some more space under the cab just foward from where the driver sits.

KAGEY1

23-10-2007, 10:41 PM

Realandy, Talk To Offroad Specialists. Piranah Etc Do A Dual Bat Setup Under The Body, Inside The Chassis Rail.
Cheers, Geoff

JRBK

24-10-2007, 09:47 AM

I have a Navara STX D40 Auto Diesel, and it flies. When towing my aluminium 4.6m centre console i have to keep checking its still hooked on. Haven't tested it on the beach as yet, but itching to get to Moreton or Double Island. We've got the new hiluxes at work also, so it'll be interesting to compare them when we do a boys weekend of solid fishing. A guy at work who gets back spasms from bad car seats took it for the weekend to binna burra, he said it was one of the most comfortable 4wd seats he has sat in for a ute. Great fuel economy on long distances. Not bad also around brisbane. Getting about 100+ extra than the Hilux

My mate in Mackay just a new petrol model Triton and he said its the best thing he's ever driven. He only tests new cars in the wet, and he said the triton performed the best out of all of them. Heaps of grunt also.

Cheers
Mark.

big moose

27-10-2007, 11:20 AM

Gday all with ref to towing with the auto navara suggest you chk the manual most say to turn off overdrive when towing not 100% sure with nissan but it might be prudent to check before you go and void your warranty.
regards gary

TheRealAndy

27-10-2007, 09:55 PM

Realandy, Talk To Offroad Specialists. Piranah Etc Do A Dual Bat Setup Under The Body, Inside The Chassis Rail.
Cheers, Geoff

Checked out the Piranah tray today but it can only accomodate an 80ah battery where as i would prefer something a bit bigger (to run the fridge for a couple of days). Since it will only ever get used for the fridge I will probably get a portable battery box the in tray and hook it up via an anderson plug. There is also space behind the rear wheels, so might investigate that a bit further yet.

ozvettec1

05-11-2007, 06:08 PM

I have just racked up 2000k on my D40 with 2.5 CRD and manual, I went for the DX model with ABS and dual bags. I am very impressed so far, gets about 9.8 l/100km and tows my 1200kg loaded tinnie with ease.

The things I don't like is the lack of power under about 1800rpm, it feels like turbo lag but I am told that it is more likely lack of fuel required to meet new emmisions requirements (Euro 4?). The speedo is out by 8k's, @100km GPS shows 92k's. I have owned 3 earlier model TD's (Cruiser and Rodeos) without this problem. I have just purchased a DP Chip to hopefully eliminate this and save my clutch a bit when getting up the ramp. I currenly have no problem towing in top gear along flattish roads, it's not lugging and this gap between 5th & 6th is well ratioed.

I have driven most other TD vehicles available in this range and feel that the D40 offred the best value for money.
Jerry

brett58

28-11-2007, 10:12 AM

Hi guys
it has been very interesting reading your opinions on the new Navara STX. Have any of you had any clutch problems with htis vehicle. It seems there have been a few reported. I have a 3L Patrol which supposedly also had clutch issues but after 130 K its still good as new. Mabe there are just poor drivers out there.
Any feedback on Navara issues would be appreciated
Cheers

Brett :)

turbostx

28-11-2007, 06:52 PM

G'day guys, Ive done nearly 12,000kms in my diesel manual STX So far no probs always uses around 10l per 100 city or highway . The only thing that annoys me is the speedo being out 7 or 8 k's, everyone I know with one says theirs is out too. Would there be any way of altering or recalibrating the speedo? Brought it up with nissanbut just got the usual as long as its within 10%

Whitey81

30-11-2007, 10:45 AM

Hi fellas,
I am at the crossroads between Hilux or Navara. I agree with Kagey1 about not towing in overdrive or in top gear with a manual. You need to keep the gearbox loaded up or the gears will just chatter against each other which will increase wear $$$$. In relation to towing up the boat ramp if it has low range use it, they make 4wds with these things for a reason. For the record Nissan Patrol 4.2 TID towing 3 tonne formula. I use low range when pulling my tinny out of the water. USE IT DONT ABUSE IT is my motto. Well Maybe::)

Whitey81

30-11-2007, 10:48 AM

Roydsy,
Nissan does nothing with your ABN number, they could give the same deal to anyone but are keen to get the farmers etc in Nissans, thats it!! Where the ABN is important is claiming back the GST on the car. If you dont you will never have a drama with the Taxos or Nissan. I know this for a fact.

brett58

30-11-2007, 05:55 PM

I agree with Whitey
Overdrive should never be used onder heavy load. I regularly pull 3T in my 3L patrol and have never had any problems. Use low range to ull out of water , ramp ect not a problem as long you dont drive on high traction surface and try and turn to sharp ( transmission wind up). saves the clutch from abuse.

Brett

bassgirl

02-12-2007, 03:47 PM

John J ,you Shouldn't Be Towing Any Decent Amount Of Weight In Overdrive, Especially Up Any Sort Of Grade. Light Loads On The Flat Only. Overdrive Is For Cruising Only.

So, what if you are towing at 110k/hr with your auto navara, do you have to click it out of overdrive everytime you come to any sort of grade? :-/

brett58

03-12-2007, 06:00 AM

So, what if you are towing at 110k/hr with your auto navara, do you have to click it out of overdrive everytime you come to any sort of grade? :-/

I am not a mechanic but my understanding is that you should not drive in overdrive in any high torque situation. At 110 the Navara sits at about 2200 rpm right at peak torque , so i would shift out of overdrive if i had a big load on the back or towing. It all depends on the load and gradient . Talk to a truck driver and they will tell you how to drive a diesel. I was told that when towing up hill its best to stay off high boost/rpm due to exhaust gass temp getting too high which may cause turbo problems.

Brett

gofishin

05-12-2007, 11:50 AM

Hi guys
...Navara STX. Have any of you had any clutch problems with htis vehicle. It seems there have been a few reported....
Brett :)

Hi Brett

On the weekend i had clutch problems towing my boat (1500kg) with my TD manual STX. I have had the STX for 13 1/2 months and have just done 25,000.

As soon as i got the truck it was evident how good this truck/donk was on the road, but equally evident was how little low end/idle torque it had compared to how much grunt it does have when you get it moving. With low speed maneuvering with a load you have to ride the clutch a little more than a larger diesel, more like a petrol donk, to get the rig around or over thinks like the #%@!& mountable curbs that are at my place. Even without a load, this diesel needs a little more revs than larger capacity models when getting away, even when compared to the previous 3L model.

Neither I nor the dealer can get the clutch to slip, but for the first time last weekend it had a kangaroo shudder getting off the line/maneuvering with the boat, and it has that ‘clutch’ smell sometimes even without a load.

When launching i normally tow the empty trailer out in high range, but when retrieving always use low range. Haven’t done any off road stuff & unfortunately not nearly enough boating, so it’s had a pretty easy life to date.

I have been reading on other forums that there have been some clutch issues with this model (here & overseas), and am still investigating.

Otherwise very happy with the truck, just wished I had got the auto now :-[
cheers
Brendon

larfin

05-12-2007, 02:15 PM

Beware of the clutch slipping problem if you are getting the 6 speed .The clutch will slip when taking off on steep hill or boat ramp with 2500 kgs or so.I have the manual diesel and should of got the auto.The car is very good other than that.
cheers
greg

brett58

06-12-2007, 02:56 PM

I have heard of similar problems with the clutch but only in early models. They have just released the series three model so i will be interesting to see if they have similar problems. Looks like the Auto is the go , just have to put up with higher fuell consumption.

Brett:-[

KAGEY1

06-12-2007, 03:30 PM

Fuel Consumption Dif Between Auto And Man Is Bugger All. Man Does Give You Quieter Operation When You Are Pulling Hard Though. (a Trailer I Mean!!)lol
Cheers,
Geoff

brett58

06-12-2007, 08:43 PM

what kind of fuell consumption are people getting ? I have heard it can be a bit high for 2.5 L engine. I have a mate with old 2.5 Landi Tdi who gets fantastic fuel consumption , so a new Tdi should be spot on.

gofishin

07-12-2007, 09:51 AM

After 25k kms, approx 3% towing, ~27% highway & ~70% city/suburban etc (canopy & roof bars fitted)
average 9.8 L/100km
best 8.8
worst 11.3

brett58

19-12-2007, 01:13 PM

TheRealAndy

19-12-2007, 06:51 PM

Oh well
looks like the Navara is off the Christmas list. A bit more delving has revealed a few more problems with overheating and engines going "POP".
So it looks like a new ute will have to wait for a while.
Merry Christmas to all ::)

I read all that stuff too, after I ordered the car! I have about 5000k on mine now still going strong. Only problems were aircon leaking water inside the cab (fixed) and a few minor sqeaks which were fisxed today.

snatch

26-05-2008, 10:15 PM

Hey guys. new to the forums and realise this post is old. I do have an answer to one of the posts above so wanted to advise. I too have a d40 navara manual 2.5 diesel.
I have the squeak in the front and can confirm that it is actually the bonnet. My dealer adjusted the bonnet and the squeak disappeared for a few thousand k's .

I also have the vibration below two grand and have been to the dealer on more than one occassion to have it rectified. I even had one of nissan's big wigs from Sydney fly up to witness it first hand. My vibration is evident just shy of two grand in every gear. Even on flat surfaces with NO load.

Nissan told me it had happened in a couple of other vehicles and that it was most likely the engine mounts. They actually removed part of the mounts . When that failed they tried to recalibrate the injectors.

Given that more than one of you here has had the same problem, I would be very surprised if they don't know the true cause. I can't tell you how happy I am to find the true cause here in these pages. Thank-you.

Fortunately the vehicle is still under warranty so I will go back armed with what I have learned here.

Thanks again.

bingleboy

27-05-2008, 09:20 AM

STX
I've had an STX for nearly a year now and have had nothing but problems with the car snuffing (clutch problems?). I've driven manuals all my life but never experienced these kinds of problems. I have to plant my foot taking off from a
stationary position or the car will snuff. I've had to learn to drive it this way to try
and prevent the problem but it creates another problem if there's a car in front of me. It won't roll in 2nd gear - it just snuffs. Sent a letter of to Nissan Melbourne after many futile attempts to have the problems sorted out at local Dealerships and received a phone call back to say a Dealership will contact me to sort it out. Letter was sent about 5 weeks ago, phone call about 4 weeks ago and still no final response. I can't let my family drive the car because they would snuff it all the time and it becomes dangerous. We've had a few near misses. Even the dealership mechanics snuff the car but they put it down to the "new type of clutch'. If that's the case the "new clutch mechanism" doesn't do the otherwise great car justice. Previously I had an STR and had none of these problems.
Love the car, Hate the problem.

Jabba_

27-05-2008, 07:08 PM

Should off got a auto Bingleboy...

To date my STX auto diesel has been the best car I have owned... It's not the most powerful, but it is so comfy and easy to drive..It's Very quiet, rides like a car and pulls my 6m fibreglass boat down the HWY at 110 easerly. Goes great on the 4x4 tracks and on the sand....

Only 1 complaint,,,,, Deisel is so bloody exspensive now...

Black_Rat

27-05-2008, 07:55 PM

I'm now going through the process of deciding on a manual or an auto for a new D40 diesel ;D The manual sounds like a real pig from take-off :o I have a 2005 D22 Diesel and don't have any issue letting out the clutch without any accelerator when taking off at a crawl through Gateway traffic in the afternoons.

Just wondering if anyone here has the 4.0ltr petrol model and has any dramas with the manual box. :-/ Toying with the idea of getting the petrol model with a few extra KWs under the bonnet ;D

snatch

27-05-2008, 10:19 PM

Don't buy the petrol unless you own an oil refinery. I have heard some horror stories about economy including a horse float towed 195 on a full tank from Sarina to Bowen in central QLD. Ouch.

bingleboy

28-05-2008, 09:04 AM

Don't like auto thanks. I prefer the grunt of the manual in beach conditions and there's the point of back up if there's a problems with the brakes. Had an auto a few years ago and much prefer the manual. My manual STR was a great car and didn't have any problems. Black Rat summed it up - "It's a pig from take off "and you can't crawl in second gear without it snuffing. Otherwise Jabba I agree with everything you said about the car. It's a great car except for this problem where they really got it wrong.

Jabba_

28-05-2008, 07:05 PM

Yeah I didn't like Manuals either, and it is the first auto car in 12 years.... Had a coulpe off 4x4's Seirra and Hilux, both manuals, and apon buying the D40 I tossed a coin and ended up with the auto....
I'm more then glad I got the auto as it is great off road, sand or rutted and gutted hills... Quiet a few 4x4 nuts were quiet suprised to see the D40 do some off the climbs easier then there modded Cruisers and Patrols. Clearance is a problem tho..

snatch

28-05-2008, 07:41 PM

TheRealAndy

28-05-2008, 08:32 PM

I have the auto stx. I was a manual man, but I am getting lazy as I get older. All I can say now is that the auto shits over the manual. About the only place it lacks is on real steep downhills, but it has to be pretty steep. Chuck it in low 4 and the lowest gear and your are pretty much right.

Mine is less than 12 months old and is already dented and scratched! IT has been used and abused. BEst car I have ever used on the beach.

Snatch, the drive train on mine has been fine, its just little annoying things like a persistent bonnet squeek and rear suspension squeeks. All are sorted now after i kicked up a stink at the last service.

snatch

28-05-2008, 08:51 PM

Yeah, I will persist with nissan if they replace the clutch and told them that today. Definitely go the auto next time.

I took a mazda bt50 for a test drive a month or so back and very nearly signed up. The main cruncher was a lack of rear space. The navara swallos three adaults in the rear and the seat folding is a major plus.

I was impressed with the motor in the mazda I must say. But dollar for dollar the navara is excellent value. Infact when weighed against the highlux I wonder how toyota can be so rude to charge what they do. $5.000 more for an inferior car.

I just hope after 15 months of trying to get nissan to the table, that they do the right thing tomorrow. Otherwise it's bye-bye.

snatch

28-05-2008, 08:53 PM

Andy, I don't suppose you could find out where exactly the squeak in the bonnet was? I had mine remedied but it came back after a month or so. It is bloody annoying.

TheRealAndy

29-05-2008, 08:17 AM

Mine was in the bonnet latch. It has not come back as yet fingers crossed. IF you are driving along slowly and its squeeking, crack the bonnet open and it will stop.

snatch

29-05-2008, 09:35 AM

Thanks mate.

Black_Rat

29-05-2008, 08:04 PM

I caught up with one of my sub-contractors on site today. He owns a Diesel STX manual and confirmed they needs a few revs when taking off.

He also owns a Pathfinder Auto Deisel and loves the Auto on that.

His only complaint was the price of Diesel at the moment ! :o

bingleboy

02-06-2008, 07:25 PM

Navara Fixed!
After 11 months Nissan finally came to the party and fixed my the clutch problems on my STX that were causing it to snuff. They put in a new slave cylinder and it has made all the difference. It now drives as good if not better than the STR I previously owned. I am very happy with it now, it's the car I should have had 11 months ago. There's no roll back on hills, no sign of suffing out. Cannot believe the difference!

Jabba_

02-06-2008, 07:37 PM

Good to hear Bingleboy....

I hope you enjoy your D40 to it's fullest.....

itsmango

03-06-2008, 07:59 AM

has nayone got the D22 ST-R model everyone seems to have the ST-X 2.5d

JOHNBULL

03-06-2008, 11:40 AM

I have a 2006 model STX 2.5 TD and i just love it, yes the lights on high beam aint that flash but i do a lot of night driving so have great set of IPF spotties on board so the high beam isnt a problem. The turning circle isnt the best but i dont turn circles all day every day either. Have done 41,000 free of problems and been off road and they do the job that i want it to do pretty well. Tow my boat 1.6 t with no problems at all even doing 145 kph apart from using more fuel. Nissans are the way to go and remember two years in a row for the Nissan STX 2.5 TD have taken top honours now.............

snatch

03-06-2008, 02:42 PM

Yes , I think there is a fair amount of ignorance when it comes to modern autos. They tend to deliver similar economy to their manual counterparts thanks to modern electronics and more ratios.

I went to nissan today armed with what I found in these forums and I find out tomorrow if they will replace the clutch, flywheel and pressure plate. While I was in there I was talking to a guy who owns an auto st-x. He loves it.

Well today I got the phone call I have been waiting for. Nissan have agreed to replace my clutch, pressure plate and flywheel under warranty. Hopefully it will remove the vibration just under 2000 rpm. As a result of them doing the right thing by me, I will be buying a navara at trade in.

Other than the clutch issue I have been very happy with my navara. I don't even know when my boat is on the back.