Shorncliffe Pier enquiries

[Yuffie]

Hello everyone,

We will be fishing off the Shorncliffe Pier this Friday, and after trying a few months of fishing with nothing to take home, I thought we should be more prepared this time. So, I've got a few questions which I hope I will get some assistance on.. We all have light estuary gears, and would be taking some crab pots with us.

1. What can you catch off the Shorncliffe Pier?

2. What bait or SPs to use?

Anything else I should pay attention to increase my chances of catching something legal to take home for a feed?

Any help is appreciated..

Thanks in advance.

Yuffie

[kevin1987316]

call me on. 0402592708
i have been fishing there for a year and know much about bait fishing on the jetty.

[kingtin]

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i have been fishing there for a year and know much about bait fishing on the jetty.

Mate, if I was you I'd delete your phone number off an open forum. I know you mean well, and that the members here are in the main, good sorts, but there are all sorts of nutters in cyberspace.

A while back someone figured my email address just from my members name and I was receiving abusive mail for weeks. Had to change my email address in the end, and yes, the "stalker" derived originally from this site.

Send any personal info by pm if you're sure about who you're sending it to.

kev

[B_E_N]

mate the pier itself isnt to good but the stone wall off to the right produces good numbers of bream and whiting at dark, probablly because no one fishes off there due to lack of light but thats what makes it good. fresh bloodworms on the high end of a run in tide is always good. but if your fishing during the day ive seen a few ppl `succeed throwing HB's n SP's on the left hand side of the pier on a run in tide. they just wade in when its low becuase of all the rocks and flick n walk. lots of fish can be caught around the pier but i live just behind the cliffe and very rarely do i see anyone with good catches other than sharks and toad fish off the actual pier. if you want any more info just pm, ive lived there long enough to write a book on the area!

[rick k]

you'll get the occasional squid

[rick k]

you'll get the occasional squid from the pier as Westerly winds start.

I met a Vampire there one night a couple of years ago. There were enough other people on the pier to make me feel safe enough, that and the garlic pizza the night before. Yes, I am serious, a blood consuming daylight is bad for you person.

[snasman]

hey mate I only usually go there to catch squid when the weather gets colder but theres two old blokes about half way down the pier they fish with prawns and no weight just drop your bait straight down beside the pillon and hang on these 2 old fellas always nail a few really nice bream every time Im down there only go to the end and use heavier gear if you intend to catch black tip reef sharks ,good luck Snas

[Robsie]

I go a bit during winter, and have a go at the squid. At high tide in the cooler months at night there are good bream off the jetty. DONT go to far out. On a good high tide walk out 20 m or so from the jetty start and fish with no weight ( 20m might be to far actually. a local told me 10 - 15 max) I use chicken breast fillets. Gets through the pickers, and seems to work better

Hae fun.

Rob

[Dirtysanchez]

Did I see on the news last night (Wed 28/02/07) that they reckon some poor bloke got bashed and thrown off this jetty ?
They found his body washed up in the morning

Maybe thats your vampire Rick K ?

Be careful down there fellas

[kingtin]

Did I see on the news last night (Wed 28/02/07) that they reckon some poor bloke got bashed and thrown off this jetty ?
They found his body washed up in the morning

Maybe thats your vampire Rick K ?

Be careful down there fellas

They dunno the exact circumstances yet, but they found a body (of Asian appearance) in the water with a large bump on the forehead.

Either way, it isn't a nice place to be on at night or early morning. I used to fish it early/late at least twice a week but I'll only go on there mid day now..............not that any of the pricks can handle themselves, but they're always mob handed and full of dutch courage.

kev

[Yuffie]

Thanks everyone for all your help, hopefully I'll be able to post a report for the first time ;D on this weekend..

btw, what about this body found washed up? I had a quick search on google, and didn't find anything... is it not safe on the pier at night?

[kingtin]

Thanks everyone for all your help, hopefully I'll be able to post a report for the first time ;D on this weekend..

btw, what about this body found washed up? I had a quick search on google, and didn't find anything... is it not safe on the pier at night?

Couple of pubs in the very near vicinity and also there is quite an "itinerant" population in Sandgate, some of whom sleep in the shelter on the pier..........if they're grogged up and mob handed, it leads to trouble.

kev

[rick k]

I think the vampyre was benign, except he could talk a lot.

He was drinking fish and other blood according to him, not people's and was fishing for squid. Also said he'd cured himself of cancer etc etc etc.

Maybe it was just a strategy to get a spot at the end of the pier?

There are usually heaps of people there when the squid are on, so I felt safe enough. By myself I may have been reaching for the garlic and departing.

[Blackened]

G'day

I also heard of the body, male, early 20's, floating the other morning wearing one of those puffy vest things.

Makes you realise what happens out at certain places sometimes, just play it safe.

Dave

[Dirtysanchez]

Yes there are some drongo's who frequent that pier at night, as Kev said
Kev, you should take the boys down there now they have their black belts :)

I got mine last September so I'll join you and we can clean the place up a bit... I'd like a close reliable land based place to wet a line in the evening !!

Russ

[kingtin]

Yes there are some drongo's who frequent that pier at night, as Kev said
Kev, you should take the boys down there now they have their black belts :)

I got mine last September so I'll join you and we can clean the place up a bit... I'd like a close reliable land based place to wet a line in the evening !!

Russ

They both got 1st dan last grading. Unfortunately, the foster boy did a runner couple of weeks back and is no longer with us............just hope he puts the discipline he's learned to good use, sooner, rather than later. Josh is missing him as they've been together for over 7 yrs:'(

I'd love to do more evening fishing mate, but what with tae kwon do, for one, piano lessons for another, and the deckie's late shifts, I'm lucky if I get 2 evenings a week that aren't spoke for.

kev

[Cammy]

i fish there often i have been for about 2 years and it has its bad and good moments mostly bad unless your fishing for sharks. i usually use prawns peeled with the heads off and the tail on and flick it under the jetty for some bream or tailor, and i usually chuck out a pillie or a live herring, i actually somtyimes use the fillets of the herring put them on the ganged side by side and you will get a stingray, or even a tiny shark (2ft), and use a light sinker for bream, and i use no sinker for the pillie havent fished there for while because of school, but i heard by a friend that someone got murded there on wednsday or thursday , im not completly sure about this, but anyway becareful and its usful to have a knife on you just incase ,and try the techniques, and i usually go from about 3-8, somtimes if the tailor are on the bight i will stay until 11 or so, and make sure you have a fishing buddy!!!

cam;)

[cuzzamundi]

the latest is that the fella was in a tinny and it overturned? dunno, thats what i heard today. either way one should be very careful after dark. cammy, i'd try and stay away from using a knife unless you really know what youre doing, besides, a formidable opponent may turn it against you, and if there's a group, you may stick one, but the rest will surely overcome you and seek retribution for sticking their mate. have seen it happen. not good. try and think of some objexts that are more creative but equally as effective - there are plenty of things you can use. but yeah, try and keep the knife outta anyone's view or they'll grab it!!! better still, leave as soon as your gut tells you to. better to be safe...

cuzza

[robyoung2]

Not only that, but as bad as getting flogged up might scare ya, in reality it doesn't happen anywhere near as often as bravado does, and living with the death of some silly bastard hanging over ya head as murder is not something to look forward to for life. Things can get out of hand quick when you make people feel they ave to protect their reputation kinda thing.

But then I do know what you mean. A bloke was raped on Coloundra beach fishing fro whiting one night about 17 years back, and a bloke who I met at my regular visitis to the pain clinic is prescribed morphine for the reat of his life because he was fishing at Skirmish point, in the middle of the day. Some clown king hit him with a steel bar , the first he knew of it was waking in the ICU at RBH. He's had serious brain surgery and suffers crippling headaches all the time now. And all it was in aid of it seems, was some bastard wanted to steal his fishing gear, and it wasn't anything flash at all either. I fish at night almost exclsuively and in reent years I've considered protection.

So, so far Shorncliffe's good for sharks, rays, bream whiting Tailor and the occassional dead human and vampires. Now that is an interesting place, and I remember it as a boreing old joint.

Actually I lived there for a couple years, and the fishing can be quet allright, as others have mentioned. I remember in the good old days when I wagged school from Banyo (30 odd years back) and caught the old timber rattler down to the jetty, the odd spotty mackeral would be caught too. Dunno about that these days now but.

If ya looking for a better chance at catching a fish, and it's bream season, maybe going down to the trawlers is more likely. I worked at Shorncliffe train stataion as a porter when I was a youngster, and we'd slip down the creek when on night shift, just using prawns and always pick up a few bream. And now days there's the mariner, gotta be a bream dream there for you guys that use soft plastics. I was there with my daughter the other day and the algae on those floating pontoons was thick as mud. Mind you, I had to get around the fence first as it's private property; but on low tide the fence doesn't go right to the water edge, and the pontoons are just right "there". But the public boat ramp is right between those mariner floaties and the trawlers, yellowfin whiting where always a big deal to be caught right from the boat ramp in times past too, again dunno about now.

The best I did for whiting (or anything) around that jetty area (and I know you still don't believe this Jim), was between 40 and 60 odd whiting on the sand flats on the sandgate side of the jetty.
It was about 1987, it had rained heaps for a few weeks, and work had been slowed up (plastering). I lived in a place on the top of those white cliffs, and so I grabbed some worms, stretched on the waders and went out from those white cliffs, where the stairs are. I went out on low as the tide was starting to run up, and walked out until I was in line with the end of the jetty and sandgate pool. when the tide's in, that's one hell of a ways out.

I was throwing a rig with a very long trace, with a triple zero sinker, . Only managed to cast a couple rod lengths , but I was way out and the tide was running in. I was using a very light 9 foot 6 whiting rod.

Every cast was a fish, and for the week it went on, the least I picked up was 40, the most was 60 odd. I dont know how long it could have fired for, because the boss was by then fireing up as I had stopped comming to work,even though the weather had cleared up. Bugger work when there's fishing to be done. But he won in the nd and I had to leave them alone.
They weren't all horses, most more like 24 cm, but there were some good ones amongst them.

I did it again over the next few months from time to time and managed a dozen or two at times, but never again like the first week.

I'm sure the unreal heavy rain we had was responsible. Must have flushed all the whiting out of cabbage tree creek I suppose.

cheers
rob

PS. From watching the old blokes, it seems to me the idea is right, that to not venture out too far for a decent shot at some bream. I'd reckon as far as the rubble starts on the Sandgate side maybe.
But if you want to have a go at some choppers, I think the go is to travel out the end, and cast as if you are aiming for woody point. Blokes seem to use floats there with a half pillie, on a small gang of 2 x 3"O"s.

It used to be a gun spot for flicking up yellowtail pike too when I was a kid. Don't know if it still is (or what the heck you'd want to catch them for either really), the huge amounts of baitfish that useed to be around those jetties as a kid seem to be gone now days. Maybe I just don't get out there enough?

[kingtin]

Rob, long kinda post and it seems from what I read, like you know what it's like to experience the "other side of the tracks".

The experience of fishing ain't as rosy for some as others, and sometimes the escape from the drudgeries of everyday life is really all fishing has to offer, whether you catch a feed or not.

I think I know what your post really refers to when you refer to your daughter.........times long gone and times anew...........we mature.

Nice post mate, if somewhat unnerving re the reality of life when some people feel they have something to live up to eg protecting what they consider their heritage or manhood by knocking some poor bastard on the head simply because they are different. Sorry if I have misinterpreted what you are saying here

kev

[jpart10]

[quote=kingtin;583689]They dunno the exact circumstances yet, but they found a body (of Asian appearance) in the water with a large bump on the forehead.

That might be the reason. (asian Appearance) Not meaning to be derogitive but they always take undersized fish and female and undersized crabs and frankly im sick of it maybe some 1 has taken the step in doing to him what he probly did to the small fish.

Jpart10

[jpart10]

[quote=kingtin;584044]They both got 1st dan last grading. Unfortunately, the foster boy did a runner couple of weeks back and is no longer with us............just hope he puts the discipline he's learned to good use, sooner, rather than later. Josh is missing him as they've been together for over 7 yrs:'(

I also do Taekwondo and id love to join you guys in the clean up mission. LOL

[Yuffie]

We didn't end up going to Shorncliffe on Friday, coz my bf rang up the Sandgate police station, and was advised againest going there for a couple of weeks by the constable as they are still doing investigations. :-/

So we went south instead to a little jetty on a creek at Paradise Point.. I think it's called Combabah creek (?) .. caught a couple of undersize fish amongest three of us using pipis and prawns as bait, and just about when I want to call it a night, a nice lady returning from her fishing trip in a boat gave us her left over live yabbies for bait!! Now that's the first time we see live yabbies, I've only seen them in books before (yes, we are all inexperienced). As soon as we put them in water, we got hits and we managed to catch something on almost every cast!!! Still undersize fish, but that was good fun for us and although we still didn't catch anything we can take home, it was the best fishing trip we had since we caught a good size buck at Bribie during the Christmas break ;D

Thanks everybody for all your responses, we'll definately visit Shorncliffe in a few weeks time, probably with a bigger group.

Yuffie

jpart10 - It's unfair for you to imply that all people of Asian appearance take undersize fish and female crabs. I for one have never even considered taking undersize fish and female crabs, and always take care when releasing fish to ensure survival. It's like saying all Asians are bad drivers when you've met a few who are... I admit I am not much of a driver though, so I catch the bus or let my bf who's a good driver to drive me aroud.

[Robsie]

i would imagine during winter the shorncliffe jetty is safe enough? when i was there last year there were always a dozen or so blokes on it fishing for squid... has it changed that much in a year?

redcliffe is also a jetty i frequent in winter for bream. Has it gone the way of shorncliffe, or is it still safe?

I do a lot of night fishing, and really enjoy the quietness of fishing alone, but this is making me think maybe i should drag a mate along??